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Should tennis be "their lives" ... ?

Ok, this is a question that occurs more and more on this board,
the press, interviews etc...

Should tennis be 'the one thing in their lives'?
Some poeple say: yes of course, they are pro-athletes!
Others say: Hell no! Glad they have a life next to tennis,
otherwise they would be sad nozems who would still be
playing at 47

Now, for the record, I'm not only speaking about the WS
although, of course, they are the obvious exemple ...

You can give other exemples. Justine HH has (some poeple
call it sad) one thing in her life: tennis. She has never denied
it (untill a few weeks ago -god knows for what reason- )
and that is probably what made her grand slams.
Kim Clijsters is sometimes blaimed for 'seeying tennis purely
as a game ...'

The Russian girls who are doing quite well right now, are known
for there 'ballmachine mentality'. A young player's attitude like
K. Sprem (who appears at tournaments with personal coach, physio,
manager, mental coach) is the epitome of focus and professionalism.



Now, the question is still standing.
Does tennis need to be the only thing in their lives to be at the absolute top?
My answer: yes
Now this doesn't mean I blame player for having interests outside tennis,
for from it! But I wonder, especially in V&S's case, why don't they wait
till after there carreers?
Arn't there other fans who are feeling that way?
Every 'great' of tennis history (and athlete in general) is known for there
absolute professionalism and dedication to the sport.
Why do some people see that as a disgrace?

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Does tennis need to be the only thing in their lives to be at the absolute top?
My answer: NO

That is like the biggest mistake you can make! It needs to be the absolute number one priority. But you NEED something on the side. You just do. And I can know, been there done that... I dedicated 10 years of my life to reach the absolute top in sports, I got injured, couldn't get back and the carreer was over... I had nothing but my highschool diploma and that was it.

What I'm trying to say. No matter how good you are. If you dedicate yourself ONLY to your sport and something happens and you don't have a back-up plan... You're screwed! That's my vision...
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Does tennis need to be the only thing in their lives to be at the absolute top?
My answer: NO

That is like the biggest mistake you can make! It needs to be the absolute number one priority. But you NEED something on the side. You just do. And I can know, been there done that... I dedicated 10 years of my life to reach the absolute top in sports, I got injured, couldn't get back and the carreer was over... I had nothing but my highschool diploma and that was it.

What I'm trying to say. No matter how good you are. If you dedicate yourself ONLY to your sport and something happens and you don't have a back-up plan... You're screwed! That's my vision...
I respect ypour opinion, cuz I've have never been in your position,
but I don't agree.
Sure, you WANT a back up plan 'in case of', but do you NEED have it
WHILE your already at the top?

I mean, I have read so many interviews of athletes who say
they go to bed every night at 10 o clock, who never (or very very rarely)
drink alcohol, eat 'junk food' etc ...
Now, again, you can call that sad, but I have HUGE respect for that!

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I'm not sure. It is so hard to say becuses this is prob the first time two top players have had such huge outside intrest.

I think it must be hard for them to focous a 100% on tennis as they are so busy. I think they have to do interviews sponser work ie photo shoots adverts, then pratice tennis, then take care of business side of thing, then study and in Serena case go and work on a set for a few days to do her acting. And thats even before a social life.

I mean that is a lot to work on. So maybe there is a point to what Martina has to say
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I'm not sure. It is so hard to say becuses this is prob the first time two top players have had such huge outside intrest.

I think it must be hard for them to focous a 100% on tennis as they are so busy. I think they have to do interviews sponser work ie photo shoots adverts, then pratice tennis, then take care of business side of thing, then study and in Serena case go and work on a set for a few days to do her acting. And thats even before a social life.

I mean that is a lot to work on. So maybe there is a point to what Martina has to say
yep! I garee.
And I find it remarcable they are indeed the 2 first players in this position
(men and women).
Some players have gone into the media, fashion, ... but they all did it after there carreers.
Now, of course in V&S case, we shouldn't overdramatise either, it's not like they arn't winning any more matches
but still it stays a pertinent question!

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well, it is a good question.....the Williamses specially were so above the field in the past that they really didnīt need to focus only on tennis to win. But now that the field has partially caught up or at least donīt fear them as much anymore, I think if they want to become dominating again, then they should focus more on tennis and leaving those outside-interests for when they retire...

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Everybody should do what they think is best for themselves.


Venus is running a firm and is a fulltime tennisplayer. That must be very tough but again it's her life. She has to decide what she thinks is best for her.
If she would only focus on tennis then maybe she would also think: "this is not what I want and I need more" and that would not be good for her game either. I guess at least!

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well, only very few people can dedicate their lives to a sport, you not only have to be like really REALLY talented, you have to be 100% dedicated.

How I see it is....... most average sports stars make a good enough living as it is, especially the players ranked 50-100, or a doubles specialist. They have a really good life, chilling and relaxing, but the top, top players, like a Federer, and Henin work really hard, harder then anyone else, they have little time for other interests, but still have them.

SO yes, i think you have to be dedicated, but it must be really hard to be IMO. Coz if you live comfortably, you have to have massive motivation to train harder and harder to keep at the top, thats why I have so much respect for top athletes at the peak of their chosen sport.

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Exactly... Why would hitting yellow balls have to be a priority for every player?

Is it supposed to be the most important thing they're going to do in their life, hitting a ball?

Maybe some players would rather win 3 or 4 Slams and have other interest instead of having 18 Slams and no other interest than tennis.
sure, the question remains
are both possible at the highest level?

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Its not a question of having only one thing in your life. Its a question making the most of your talent.

If you want to be #1 in the tennis world you need to be focused. u can have 3 careers, but that dilution of effort might prevent you cfrom living up to your potential.

That applies to the williams. Its a personal choice what they want to try to excel at. in or outside of tennis, its all good on a personal level. But, IMO, they are tennis players first and foremost and they should be careful that outside interests dont turn them into less effective performers. Tennis has opened all sorts of doors in their lives, but tennis was the key. They need to stay on top of that.
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I respect ypour opinion, cuz I've have never been in your position,
but I don't agree.
Sure, you WANT a back up plan 'in case of', but do you NEED have it
WHILE your already at the top?

I mean, I have read so many interviews of athletes who say
they go to bed every night at 10 o clock, who never (or very very rarely)
drink alcohol, eat 'junk food' etc ...
Now, again, you can call that sad, but I have HUGE respect for that!
Uhm, well... while your on top, that is a different story. But still I think it is really smart to have something on the side. Like a study (like Venus) or something like that...

BTW, sleeping in time, never drinking alcohol and eating healthy are absolutely A MUST DO if you want to be a PRO. That is not sad at all, but that has nothing to do with having something in the side. I mean, you have to give up these things. I respect that, but if you truly want to make it, giving those things up is NO issue whatsoever...

But it had nothing to do with having other things in your life. As I said!
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Tennis has opened all sorts of doors in their lives, but tennis was the key. They need to stay on top of that.
That is true... They don't want to make a Kournikova! Even though Anna never won titles, she was the first to get real FAME out of tennis. She went from Tennis-Talent to Super-Star... And that is what took her down. I think that has been a lesson for a lot of new upcoming players.

In the case of the Sisters, they always said, even before they won Slams, that they wanted to do MORE than just tennis. I can recall Venus once saying that she 'might retire' in a few years, because she didn't want to get bored with ONLY playing tennis... I can see her doing a Hingis!

(and yes, I'm big on the doing-another-player-thing )
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