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If Venus didn't know the correct score, then why is it fair to accuse Sprem of knowing the correct score???? Where's proof??? K-Lina was just as focused and intense as Venus was.
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If Venus didn't know the correct score, then why is it fair to accuse Sprem of knowing the correct score???? Where's proof??? K-Lina was just as focused and intense as Venus was.
That's exactly what I've been trying to say on this board since yesterday

To those people who accuse Sprem of "knowing" : do you think Venus knew as well ? And if she did, why on Earth didn't she say a word ?
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They both knew the correct score, but they don't have faith in their intelligence.
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Thatīs correct! If Venus had complained, then it had worked out, but fact is, she didnīt.

Hey, now, what do you think: Will Sprem take away the first place of Justineīs glamorous hand??? LOL
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They both knew the correct score, but they don't have faith in their intelligence.
even if that was the case, which we have NO PROOF OF, it's venus who should have said something before k-lina, that's for damn sure.
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even if that was the case, which we have NO PROOF OF, it's venus who should have said something before k-lina, that's for damn sure.
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They both knew the correct score, but they don't have faith in their intelligence.
Exactly...how weird is it to go to the umpire and say:"Excuse me, I think you are counting wrong."...while millions of people are watching...I think they didnīt want to get embarrased. It probably wasnīt the first time that they "think" the umpire is counting incorrectly.
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Wait, are you trying to make sense?

Common sense is forbidden on planet Venus.

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even if that was the case, which we have NO PROOF OF, it's venus who should have said something before k-lina, that's for damn sure.
It WAS the case, because they were both preparing to play a point from the right side.

I agree on the 2nd part though.
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perhaps they knew the ump said 3-2 instead of 3-1... but they didnt necassarily know k-lina got a free point. because after k-lina missed her first serve and hit the backhand "winner"... she went to hit a second serve, which would imply that she was under the impression that she was given a free point.
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If you bothered to watch Venus' interview you'd realized that even though Venus might have known, she was so uncertain of herself at the time that she felt she was probably mistaken.

She did a doubletake when she heard the score, from what I saw, but down a set and fighting to stay in the match, it's understandable that she was second-guessing herself. If you look at the reaction of both players they both thought something had gone wrong but Venus was too frazzled herself to make any claims of certainty.

I heard that Alan Mills said neither player had questioned the score, so it should stand. The point is, it wasn't a bad line call; it was a bad score. Therefore, one can't honestly expect the players to go out there and do their own scoring as well. If they should why not get the rid of all the fucking officials?

In the heat of a game as tense as that one, how dare they expect the players to do the scoring as well. That's what offcials are for!
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If you bothered to watch Venus' interview you'd realized that even though Venus might have known, she was so uncertain of herself at the time that she felt she was probably mistaken.

She did a doubletake when she heard the score, from what I saw, but down a set and fighting to stay in the match, it's understandable that she was second-guessing herself. If you look at the reaction of both players they both thought something had gone wrong but Venus was too frazzled herself to make any claims of certainty.

I heard that Alan Mills said neither player had questioned the score, so it should stand. The point is, it wasn't a bad line call; it was a bad score. Therefore, one can't honestly expect the players to go out there and do their own scoring as well. If they should why not get the rid of all the fucking officials?

In the heat of a game as tense as that one, how dare they expect the players to do the scoring as well. That's what offcials are for!
well said...
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Errr ... people like you and me can have heated matches as well, and we're still able to do the scoring by ourselves.

Don't tell me it's no difference for Venus (or anyone else) whether it's 40-30 or 30-40.
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Errr ... people like you and me can have heated matches as well, and we're still able to do the scoring by ourselves.

Don't tell me it's no difference for Venus (or anyone else) whether it's 40-30 or 30-40.
I've had score fuck ups in my matches before. This just so happened to be on Centre Court at Wimbledon.
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You know, I don't want to start any accusations here but did anyone notice the smirk on Ted Watt's face after he gave Sprem the extra point? And also, did anyone else see how when Sprem was walking during the changeover, down 4-2, she was walking with like a little smirk of her own? I think she may have even looked up at the chair with a smirk but that I cannot be too certain of. Again, I'm not saying that it represents anything, just wondering if anyone else saw it. I still think that she deserves the match though, she played a hell of one.

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