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Who is the greatest active slamless player?

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#1 · (Edited)
Who do you think is the best slamless player?(as in career wise) I guess it has to be between Jankovic, Radwanska, Wozniacki and Halep. My vote would go to Aga. No bias of course:oh:
 
#2 ·
Their achievements:

Wozniacki
Ranking: #1, YE#1 2010, 2011
Grand Slams: 2 F (USO 2009, USO 2014), 4 SF, 2 QF
YEC: 1 F (2010), 2 SF
Tier I: 5 Titles (Canada, Tokyo, Beijing, Dubai, Indian Wells)
Tier II: 9 Titles

Halep
Ranking: #2
Grand Slams: 1 F (Roland Garros 2014), 2 SF, 4 QF
YEC: 1 F (2014)
Tier I: 5 Titles (Doha, Dubai, Indian Wells, Madrid, Canada)
Tier II: 2 Titles

Radwanska:
Ranking: #2
Grand Slams: 1 F (Wimbledon 2012), 4 SF, 7 QF
YEC: 1 Title (2015), 3 SF
Tier I: 5 Titles (Tokyo, Beijing, Miami, Canada, Beijing)
Tier II: 7 Titles

Jankovic:
Ranking: #1, YE#1 2008
Grand Slams: 1 F (US Open 2008), 5 SF, 2 QF
YEC: 3 SF
Tier I: 6 Titles (Charleston (2007), Rome, Rome, Moscow (2008), Cincinnati, Indian Wells)
Tier II: 2 Titles


Really a close one, their achievements are all quite similar. Jankovic is the only one with 6 Tier I titles compared to the others with 5 each, but two of them came before the Roadmap was introduced and when Tier I's tend to be weaker.

I think it's between Aga and Wozniacki. Aga has the YEC, but Woz has the #1 ranking and one more slam final. Both have won 5 big WTA titles.
 
#11 ·
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I think it's between Aga and Wozniacki. Aga has the YEC, but Woz has the #1 ranking and one more slam final. Both have won 5 big WTA titles.
I think we should also add in the fact that Wozniacki was only a top 5 player between 2009-11. That's only 3 years. While Aga has ended top 5 2012-16. That 5 years. People forget Aga's longevity as a top 5 player and is always shrouded by never getting to world no.1.
 
#3 ·
Caroline Wozniacki, former #1, two year end #1 and two GS finals, so it has to be her.

Rest:

2. Radwanska
3. Jankovic
4. Halep
 
#5 ·
Similar accomplishments. It's hard to choose between them 4 but I'd say Aga because YEC and Woz because number 1 and 2 slam finals.

2 number 1s vs. 2 number 2s:oh:
 
#6 ·
Who do you think is the best slamless player currently? I guess it has to be between Jankovic, Radwanska, Wozniacki and Halep. My vote would go to Aga. No bias of course:oh:
Radwanska and Halep are currently better than Wozniacki and Jankovic, but Wozniacki has achieved the most out of those four.

So if currently is the operative word, Radwanska/Halep.
 
#9 ·
Beautiful dane. It's pretty clear.
 
#12 ·
Since Muguruza is the only player 25 or younger with a slam, I think players 27 and under are too young to include
So I would say Jankovic. At her age, she needs one like Pennetta got one
 
#22 ·
Jankovic played a lot of great matches! She was in some high level battles with all time greats
But if you started watching during the Wozniacki-Serena(30's)-Kerber time period, you missed most of her best tennis
 
#23 ·
It's close between Aga and Woz.. I prefer Aga's playing style but I went with Woz because she has reached no.1 and has two slam finals. They are both tied for PM/P5 titles but Woz has a few more titles.

Aga could easily overtake Woz next year though with the way things have been going.. The fact that Aga has won the YEC trophy and Woz has not is significant. I can totally see Aga becoming no.1 at some point in her career.
 
#28 ·
Meh. Honestly, I don't think any of them ever looked to be a true "potential slam winner" except peak JJ.

The others just have too many weaknesses that are going to get exposed by somebody over a two-week tournament.

JJ has weaknesses, too, but I, fwiw, always felt that she could get a hot streak going and be a one-slam wonder.



And her some of her h2h is affected by her journey to no-fucks-given land starting earlier than Woz's and the fact she has taken up permanent residence there.
 
#30 ·
Meh. Honestly, I don't think any of them ever looked to be a true "potential slam winner" except peak JJ.

The others just have too many weaknesses that are going to get exposed by somebody over a two-week tournament.

JJ has weaknesses, too, but I, fwiw, always felt that she could get a hot streak going and be a one-slam wonder.
But this poll is not about who is the more likely to win a slam. It's on who is the greatest with what they've achieved up to now. That's why I voted Caro at this point in time.
 
#31 ·
Wozniacki had the best career, being a Player of the Year and #1 for 67 weeks, 25 titles, 2 slam finals
But I think until we see young players winning majors, we have to think Caroline, Aga and Simona have years ahead.
Jankovic, Dementieva, and Safina had their eras, but the players who are now mid 20-s are still in their era
 
#32 ·
Most number of main draw wins in a season

70+ Serena Williams (1 time unless stated)
70+ Jenlena Jankovic

65+ Victoria Azarenka
65+ Carloline Wozniacki

60+ Angelique Kerber
60+ Svetnana Kuznetsova
60+ Venus Williams

55+ Agnieszka Rawanska (2 times)
55+ Ana Ivanovic

50+ Simona Halep
.....

Seasons with XX main draw wins
 
#34 ·
I feel like we get this thread once in a while :lol:

I'll rule Halep out for now. Clearly she achieved the least for now and it's not too fair because she only became a 'top player' for 3 years, while the rest had longer careers.

-Woz has the edge of 2x YE#1 (+ the # of weeks) and 1 more GS F than everyone. Good Top 10 W-L record in 2010-11.
-Aga has the edge of winning the YEC, and the longevity as a top player.
-JJ is more balanced. Reached #1, and had the most Tier I titles (and finals). Probably has the best season, achievement-wise?? (2008: YE #1, 1 GS F + 2 SF + 2 Tier Is.)

However you could also argue that...

-Woz's performance in slams weren't convincing during her peak/best years.
-Despite her longevity and reached #2 more than once, Aga only managed to end her year in Top 3 for once, in 2016. Was she ever one of the best 2-3 players of the year? (Is it important though? :p ) or did she only manage to achieve that much by slowly picking up those titles in different years? (Not that I really think like that, but it's something worth to be mentioned.)
-As mentioned by Poldo, JJ's Tier I title might be slightly less competitive ones because it was mostly pre-road map, and she never reached F in YEC. Despite her 2008 could be 'objectively' the best season (among these 4), she was 12-12 vs Top 10 players. Her draw to win the Rome title was pretty light. It's not as convincing as it should be.

All 3 of them failed to reach QF in every slam. Halep is the one who managed to do so :oh:

If we just look through the stats/achievements, it should be Wozniacki right now. After all she reached #1, was YE #1 for two years, and had 1 more GS F. You could argue she never won something as big as YEC like Aga did though, that's why it's close, if you value the title more than #1. However, for now, it seems that way more attention is still focused on former #1s than YEC champions. A lot is neglecting JJ here but imo it's also a close call vs Aga. After all she was YE #1, had similar GS F/SF, and it's again, whether you value #1 more than longevity + a YEC title + way more GS QF/Tier IIs
 
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#38 ·
A lot is neglecting JJ here but imo it's also a close call vs Aga. After all she was YE #1, had similar GS F/SF, and it's again, whether you value #1 more than longevity + a YEC title + way more GS QF/Tier IIs
JJ weeks at #1 (18) is a bit inflated, though, because half of those weeks were off-season weeks. She was a legit YE #1 (had ~25% more points than #2), but her actual period of dominance was only about two months.
 
#35 ·
Seriously, so now we can't even say "stay slamless" ?

What rule did that break?

:scratch:
 
#36 ·
When I voted I was almost sure Radwanska would lead the poll. So I happen to be in a majority who thinks that peak Wozniacki is the best of them. Fine! She proved it in the past, and I hope she can still prove it in the years to come against any generation. It's still upon her will and motivation to make enough efforts for that. Especially physically. Her only problem is mental. We've seen like hundreds of matches when she mentally makes a step back instead of closing a match convincingly. She still has to find that perfect balance of confidence, aggressive and defensive mindset. Her problem is often to not find that balance. When she decides to be aggressive, she forgets her defensive qualities, and when she's too defensive she's often going to lose it because, well, to win you have to go for it. She has to come with everything together. The perfect physical condition, the will to win, the confidence, an aggressive mindset and a defensive cleverness (coverage of the court). It's of course a lot of work in the end... that ends to pay off.

Pretty much the same observations fit with Aga and Simona, by the way. I just think that Caroline has better athleticism overall.

In the last years we've seen Caroline hit the ball more flat. She tries to play with more power, it sometime works. On the other hand, she lost on accuracy. Years before, when she was number one and essentially brushing that ball, she was tireless, and barely made any mistake. Her movement was perfect. Not sure she can ever find that level again, but maybe a new CW can rise again, with a new kind of balance. That's the question mark.
 
#41 ·
Wozniacki = Jankovic > Radwanska > Halep

In terms of peak vs peak, Jankovic > Halep > Wozniacki = Radwanska

WHo I think will end up having better career ? Halep > Jankovic > Wozniacki = Radwanska
 
#43 ·
JJ was able to challenge Venus and Serena much better than Caroline or Aga. She struggled at Wimbledon , but Woz has struggled at Wimbledon and FO and Aga has struggled at FO and US Open.

They are very close in accomplishments. I'm going to give peak JJ the slight advantage due to the quality of her wins . Halep is still in the 10 and contending for slams , but I think each of the other 3 have accomplished more than she at this point .


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