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Hall of Fame Material?

I've been thinking...what exactly is Hall of Fame material?

Being #1?

This seems like the best way to ensure you get into the HOF, but there are weak #1's (Clijsters-Rios, who were #1 without majors).

Majors?

And if so, how many? Conchita Martinez only has one major, but it seems like she'll head to the HOF. Iva Majoi on the other hand has one major as well, but she probably won't go to the HOF (or will she?)
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What makes you think either Conchita or Iva will make the Hall of Fame? I don't think either will.

The criteria for entering the Hall of Fame has been lowered since they put Shriver in there but the criteria is still not low enough for those two to get in.
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What makes you think either Conchita or Iva will make the Hall of Fame? I don't think either will.

The criteria for entering the Hall of Fame has been lowered since they put Shriver in there but the criteria is still not low enough for those two to get in.
Conchi, maybe. Iva no way.
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What makes you think either Conchita or Iva will make the Hall of Fame? I don't think either will.

The criteria for entering the Hall of Fame has been lowered since they put Shriver in there but the criteria is still not low enough for those two to get in.
Which was the point of the thread. To see what the criteria was.

I think Conchita will go for numerous reasons
1-She won a major
2-she was near the top of the sport of many years, and has had solid results (many titles)
3-Fed-Cup icon. Her and Arantxa were a dynasty for years

Iva hasn't done much of anything outside Roland Garros
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I think Conchita should go....I mean if Pam can go on doubles alone, then Conchita´s runs at all the majors and her solid career titles make her a good bet. Consider she has reached the final of three of the majors, has won the IO like 4 times in a row,etc...

Back to the topic...I think you need a high ranking, solid career numbers and/ or a couple of majors....

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What makes you think either Conchita or Iva will make the Hall of Fame? I don't think either will.

The criteria for entering the Hall of Fame has been lowered since they put Shriver in there but the criteria is still not low enough for those two to get in.
Of course Conchita gets in, and I can give you 706 reasons why. In my opinion, the real question mark is Jennifer Capriati. Yes, Jen's one of the lucky 13 who's been ranked #1 on the computer. Yes, Jen's won three majors and an Olympic gold medal. The problem is, Jen's only won 10 other titles in FOURTEEN years on your. You have to draw the line somewhere; which side will Jen be on when it's drawn?

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I think Jen will get in....possibly because of the comeback, and the WAY she's won her GS's.
Iva is a def. question mark, i think since she won RG she deserves to get in, but then again, the trophy might be enough since she never really made a name for herself other than RG, i think.


I think people just have to know who you are. Tennis fans atleast. say Jack SmithJohnsonMiller was number 1 for a week. no one knew who he was, but would he still be in the HOF? i dont think so, but maybe.
i dont know the criteria, so i dunno why i replyed.

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the Hall of Fame has been lowered since they put Shriver in there
I thought it was the other way around, didn't they have to raise the roof so that she could fit in?

I think out of the active players, the Hall of Fame players are:

Should make it: Monica Seles, Serena Williams, Venus Williams, Lindsay Davenport, Jennifer Capriati, Justine Henin.

Probable: Mary Pierce & Conchita Martinez

Long shot: Iva Majoli

Recently retired and not yet in the Hall of Fame but should also make it: Martina Hingis, Arantxa Sanchez-Vicario,

Probable: Jana Novotna & Gabriela Sabatini

I think a GS in singles is almost a MUST, at a rate of 2 inductions a year (recent player, old player) most of the people mentioned should make it... Also Pam Shriver making it to the Hall gives hope to people like Gigi Fernandez and Natasha Zvereva, with their outstanding doubles careers.


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If Conchita or Jana make it in and Gaby doesn't I'm going after this infamous hall of fame thing .
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If Conchita or Jana make it in and Gaby doesn't I'm going after this infamous hall of fame thing .


I gave Jana, Conchita and Gaby about the same chances


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lol...
maybe if they didn't induct her had a small little thing on the best player who never won a title... o wait, that would be kournikova...
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Of course Conchita gets in, and I can give you 706 reasons why. In my opinion, the real question mark is Jennifer Capriati. Yes, Jen's one of the lucky 13 who's been ranked #1 on the computer. Yes, Jen's won three majors and an Olympic gold medal. The problem is, Jen's only won 10 other titles in FOURTEEN years on your. You have to draw the line somewhere; which side will Jen be on when it's drawn?

I agree that it is strange for Jen to have only 10 other titles, but I think the accomplishments you just mentioned merit a place in the Hall of Fame. It seems likely that those with at least 3 slams (Capriati, Davenport, Henin-Hardenne) will make it in.

Capriati's accomplishments are comparable in some respects (although obviously not identical) to those of Tracy Austin, who has a place in the Hall. Tracy won 2 majors (both USO), 29 total titles, and reached the No. 1 spot briefly.
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kim will get in even if she doesnt win a slam, cos of her doubles results, no1 singles ranking and number of singles titles (including 2 YEC)

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Hall of Fame I believe has to be contemplated before they let a certain Player be initiated in, No, A Player doesn't have to revolutionize the game of Tennis but has to show what they have contributed to Tennis, eg: Navratilovas Surpremecy of Singles and Doubles, BJK, Steffi Graf etc etc

It's not just singles Results that count, Shriver had a fond Singles Career, but her doubles career was her Surpremecy, Thats why she was Initiated.

Conchita will be known as a great Champion of Tennis, Possibly more in Spain, I don't believe however she has got enough results to have her excelled in the Hall of Fame, 95 was her Best Season, and past and present before then, Conchita was a threat, Her Singles Career is Glamourous, considering the Singles Titles (Which seem to comprise of Teir 3 <) and a Mediocre-good Doubles Player.

Her Career up to now has been Excellent, No Doubt about it. Grandslam Champion? Yes, Hall of Fame representative? Highly Unlikely.
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