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Top 10 Grasscourters of the Open Era

Much like the other post, what do you guys think about this list of Grass Court Goddesses?

Martina Navratilova
Margaret Court
Chris Evert
Steffi Graf
Serena Williams
Venus Williams
Lindsay Davenport
Martina Hingis
Jana Novotna
Pam Shriver

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Much like the other post, what do you guys think about this list of Grass Court Goddesses?

Martina Navratilova
Margaret Court
Chris Evert
Steffi Graf
Serena Williams
Venus Williams
Lindsay Davenport
Martina Hingis
Jana Novotna
Pam Shriver
I totally agree.

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Hingis? She didn't even play Wimbledon that many times, and in my opinion was a little fortunate to win in 1997. There then followed a semi-final finish, aquarter final, and two first round losses.

1.Navratilova
2.Graf
3.Evert
4.King
5.Venus Williams
6.Court
7.Goolagong
8.Novotna
9.Serena Williams
10.Davenport



Other mentions, though not quite as good would be:

Sanchez-Vicario, Mandlikova, Martinez, Shriver, Tauziat, McNeil, Garrison-Jackson, Hingis, Henin, Seles, Virginia Wade, Sukova.

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Hingis? She didn't even play Wimbledon that many times, and in my opinion was a little fortunate to win in 1997. There then followed a semi-final finish, aquarter final, and two first round losses.

Navratilova
Graf
Evert
Novotna
Venus Williams
Sanchez-Vicario
Court
Goolagong
King
Serena Williams

Other mentions, though not quite as good would be:

Mandlikova, Martinez, Shriver, Tauziat, McNeil, Garrison-Jackson, Hingis, Henin, Seles, Virginia Wade.
whats wrong with you not mentioning Lindsay? but i agree with the original list, except that hingis in on the bottom
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Navratilova
King
Court (don't forget the US and Aussie Opens were on grass till 74 and 87 respectively)
Graf
Goolagong
Venus Williams
Evert
Serena Williams
Mandlikova
Wade


Honorable mentions for Jana Novotna, Martina Hingis, Lindsay Davenport, Ann Jones, Conchita Martinez
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I realised before you posted that poor ole Linders had somehow been forgotten. I won't forget her 1999 smashing of Graf, though. Great performance, great tournament. She's 10th, I displaced Sanchez-Vicario (who is certainly 11th).
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I realised before you posted that poor ole Linders had somehow been forgotten. I won't forget her 1999 smashing of Graf, though. Great performance, great tournament. She's 10th, I displaced Sanchez-Vicario (who is certainly 11th).
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Navratilova
King
Court (don't forget the US and Aussie Opens were on grass till 74 and 87 respectively)
Graf
Goolagong
Venus Williams
Evert
Serena Williams
Mandlikova
Wade
I agree with the players, but not necessarily the order:

Navratilova
Graf
Court
King
Venus Williams
Goolagong
Evert
Serena Williams
Mandlikova
Wade

1. I noticed that some people had Chris Evert ahead of Evonne Goolagong, and if Evonne had beaten anyone else besides Chrissie for her 1980 Wimbledon title, I would agree with them.

2. If Serena should win Wimbledon again this year, I'd put her right in front of her sister.

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I would place them this way:

1. Navratilova
2. Graf
3. Court
4. King
5. Evert
6. Goolagong-Cawley
7. V. Williams
8. S. Williams
9. Novotna
10. Davenport


Honorable mention: Wade, Haydon-Jones, Martinez(she is a champ after all) Mandlikova and Shriver.
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You need to check the surfaces the slams were played on when each of these players won them.

It is virtually impossible for anyone but Court to be at the top of this list. The US Open and OZ used to be grass tournament too.

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Volcana: Thanks, and I hadn't thought of it like that, but surely if you consider grass tournaments as a whole (and even Wimbledon titles alone) Martina is still top of the list?

It's inconceivable that there's been a greater grass court player than Martina.
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Much like the other post, what do you guys think about this list of Grass Court Goddesses?

Martina Navratilova
Margaret Court
Chris Evert
Steffi Graf
Serena Williams
Venus Williams
Lindsay Davenport
Martina Hingis
Jana Novotna
Pam Shriver
i think you forgot Sabatini -F in 1991 and a lot of SF and a title in doubles with Graf
in singles she is ahead of Shriver
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Mauro - you're right about Sabatini!! I wouldn't place her in the top 10, but certainly a very well earned mention!
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