Originally Posted by WF4EVER
If most of the top ten are out sick or recovering from one thing or the other why keep insisting that Venus' true mettle will be determined after she has played any or all of them? Does it not make some sense that if these players are on the sidelines (obviously most are out for illness or injuries) that Venus' current form would give her an advantage?
I thought we had determined months ago when Justine was winning everything in sight that it was totally unfair to compare how she'd match up against the sisters because they weren't there to validate it? Was it her fault that they weren't playing? Not unless she's Tonya Hardenne.
This is utter nonesense, IMO, to keep harping about Venus not playing a top-tenner. Like dg said some of them have yet to win a title. In the same way some are sick, so if Venus beats Kim, for arguments sake, will we not hear the immediate defense that Kim was sick or recovering from an injury. You can not have it both ways, you know, even tho the sword is always double-edged for the sisters.
She has beaten some pretty good players IMO, on her worst surface supposedly, and having done so there should be no question left about her form. She's playing well; deal with it.
Kuznetsova was supposed to be the best thing since vodka, she'd been playing great all year and had been giving the world No. 1 fits, beating her once, and beating Venus in Dubai. I even read on these very boards that she was good enough to make GS champion in the near future, so now that Venus has handled her like she should be handled, why is she suddenly not good enough a measuring stick? Oh, she was injured. I forgot. Well I suppose Schiavone could explain the scoreline by which she lost in the very same way!
Venus beat ZV twice in a row and suddenly this new Russian vodka is flat. The same vodka that downed Venus in the FO last year. It seems to me that when these players are winning they're the greatest thing on earth but after a spanking by Venus they weren't worth diddly and even less is thought of Venus' victory over them.
W4 - it's true. Everyone can take these facts and make the glass
look half empty or half full. I will say this...it's really not one
way or the other; but both. Let me explain in terms of your rave.
Yes, Venus was injured. Yes, Sveta did become a better player.
True, Venus did beat the on the verge of greatness Sveta; but
you have to realize that a) Venus has improved her form since
she played Sveta at Dubai. b) Sveta has beaten Justine; but
went on to lose to Myskina and again to the current number
We can give merit to both sides. Yes, Venus did regain some form.
We will never know if she will be as great as her best moments; but
it's good enough right now to beat the "on the verge" girls. We cannot
minus any bonus cookies to Venus because Sveta isn't Kim. In my
opinion it was a good solid win. Congrats Venus.
Yes, Sveta has not won any titles this year; but on the average her
results are very impressive. She has made good runs in Dubai,
Doha and Warsaw, only to lose to an experience player like Myskina
or a classier one in Venus and Justine. Sveta despite her loss is
still on the rise and on the verge.
I'm not going to take anything away from Venus or Sveta from