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Venus Williams = Clay court specialist?

I used to think her favorite surface was a hardcourt but her recent results indicate otherwise. She's actually doing better on dirt now. Her results on hard courts were less then mediocre. I think it's fair to call her a clay specialist now. What do you think?
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There are no specialist of any surface on the top of women's tour. The good players are just great on all surfaces. the not so good players may prefere certain surfaces. But to answer your question, venus is playing well on clay.

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errrmm nope I would actually class her as an all surface player, specialist to me mean the have great results on that surface only and maybe an odd good result of different surfaces. Venus can and will have great results on all surfaces.

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errrmm nope I would actually class her as an all surface player, specialist to me mean the have great results on that surface only and maybe an odd good result of different surfaces. Venus can and will have great results on all surfaces.
No, I mean, she used to be capable of playing well on other surfaces but recently, especially after coming back from a long lay-off, she's been a mediocre player on any other surface than clay. I don't see her performance pick up on non-clay surfaces any time soon. So for the time being, she deserves the label," clay court specialist" in my opinion.
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I think that once Vee wins Roland Garros, then she can be considered an all surface player. Until then, if she hits Serena or a Belgian, she's in trouble. Keep in mind that she hasn't had to beat any Top 10 players during her 2004 clay court run, impressive as it is. Can't wait for Berlin!!


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Queen Vee is just good on each surface

When she has play on Clay for many weeks, she is unstoppable. But when she is underdone, she loses (example: 2003 French Open vs Zvonareva)
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No, her best surface is still hardcourts. She is just having better form than she had during earlier this year. She would perform even better if she's on hardcourts right now. But Venus is just that good that she can play well on clay as well.

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When she has play on Clay for many weeks, she is unstoppable. But when she is underdone, she loses (example: 2003 French Open vs Zvonareva)
Apparently, you've forgotten 1999. Venus won the titles in Hamburg and Rome and was a favourite to win Roland Garros, but stumbled badly in the 4th Round against Barbara Schwartz.

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I wouldnt go as far as too call her a clay court specialist but her game seems very suited to the surface atm, from what Ive seen her play. The defensive style of her game works very very well, and she seems more confortable on clay then Ive ever seen her before.

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Not yet...maybe some more clay tier 1s and French Open crowns...
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'specialist' implies she's NOT good on other surfaces. She's a 'non-carpet' specialist.

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Shes good on all surfaces. Obviously you dont know the meaning of specialist if you are saying Venus is a clay court specialist.
Venus was not doing well at the start because she was rusty coming off her injury. Now that is all sorted out she will be doing well on all surfaces.
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No, I mean, she used to be capable of playing well on other surfaces but recently, especially after coming back from a long lay-off, she's been a mediocre player on any other surface than clay. I don't see her performance pick up on non-clay surfaces any time soon. So for the time being, she deserves the label," clay court specialist" in my opinion.
Then your opinion isn't worth much.

Every top player is an all surface specialist and they have the titles to prove it.

Funny how some other clay court specialists dont have us open titles or wimbledon titles or have been tothe final of the aussie.

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She isn't a clay court specialist but she found her groove on the clay. You can tell something clicked in CHarleston that wasn't there before. She used to play a good point, nice and forceful and aggressive, then she would play a few games of being passive, push the ball instead of hitting through it. That was how the players could move her around. Thats how she got those little nagging injuries. Once she got over everything anf then just played like she wanted to, she started with better results. It just happen that is occured on clay.

And if Venus isn't an all court player, I don't know who is. Her obvious best surface is grass and the fast USO hardcourt, but most all court players have a favorite surface where they thrive. Evert was clay, Serena is definitely hardcourt, and Justine is clay, and Kim is indoors and harcourts. Just my opinion.
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