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Why are Williams fans......

......so obsessed with Martina Hingis?

Notice how many threads there are started by Williams fans in which the main purpose seems to be to tear down Hingis.

The record is what it is and all the complaints in the world can't change it. Martina held the number one ranking for as long as she held it. That isn't going to change. The Williams sisters chose not to play full schedules, often for non-medical reasons. That was their choice. Martina didn't keep them out of tournaments, they chose not to play. If you have problems, see the Williams sisters, not Hingis.

Hingis continues to be very popular, though, as the recent polls on this board proves. That seems to anger some Williams fans. Again, this has nothing to do with Hingis. Venus and Serena have either made fans or they haven't, either are popular with the other players or they are not.

Venus came on the tour and said "I'm not here to make friends."

No one forced her to say that. She has probably changed some since then, but whatever popularity she has, with fans or with other players, has nothing to do with Hingis.

So why do so many Williams fans feel the need to constantly devote so much time to tearing down Hingis?
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Which threads are these Tony P??
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at the end of the day when Serena has like 10 majors and a bunch of other titles, do you think anyone┤s gonna care about Hingis having a couple more weeks at no.1 than Serena?! PLease!!!!

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I cant speak for all Williams fans (being an individual and all ) but I could care less about chucky...I do wish she was still playing because a Williams/Chucky match was just always very special...but the fact is the sisters took the game to another level and she could'nt hang so she ran with her tail between her legs... Obsessed? I dont think so

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I agree, Williams fans are always saying how their favorites made Hingis retire, it's so old and totally untrue, Hingis had her physical problems, in stead of feeling for her and wishing her the best, they're just putting her down, probably because she started performing well earlier and she beat both sisters so much and because she spent so many weeks more at #1.

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Hingis? I haven't talked about her for YEARS!!!! When was the last time she played a tennis match?


My question is why are you always obsessed with the Williams Sister's and their fans? It's like you have a vendetta.

What is up with the blanket terms "William's Fans" and "they". Be a man and please address who you are specifically referring to!
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Williams fans need not tear Hingis down. Fans only tear down players who dominate their faves, like Hingis fans to the Williamses. Hingis is brought up often by Williams fans because she was their contemporary, and their matches were always exciting, blwoouts and nailbiters alike.

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I don't see a lot of threads with Venus and Serena fans tearing into Hingis. I can see one titled something like 'Did the Williams sisters force Hingis into retirement?' I don't think that is tearing into Hingis. I actually think that's a valid question and the answer is probably yes. The official Hingis line is her feet or ankles are too sore to return and she did not want to play tennis when she knew she would struggle to be number 1 and after being there for so long she didn't like the thought of not being there again. She knew the power game and Venus and Serena in particular were taking over.

Hingis could only hold back the power game for so long. By 1999/2000 Lindsay, Venus, Serena, Mary and later Jennifer were overpowering Hingis who had a smaller build. Say what you like about Justine, even with the controversies around some victories, she has not let her smaller height and build defeat her. She worked very hard to become a powerful shotmaker. If anyone beats Henin, it's not because they are just too big and strong for her, it's because they had to play better than her. Maybe Hingis might still be there if she took on a Justine style fitness regime?

I think Hingis seems very happy with her life now anyway, but I do wish she was still playing as she was always great to watch.


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Ok! Let me try to explain:
Fact is, when speaking about Serena and Venus, "people" want to undermine their achievements and dwell on little things like their alleged "arrogance", "they don't care about the sport", "they don't like the way that S&V dreses", "they're just power and athleticism"etc, when infact they have proven otherwise on many occasions. Meanwhile, Martina is guilty of being one of the most blatantly arrogant and disrespectful player in the history of the game, yet this is overlooked, most of her "dominace" came at a time when competition was very weak, etc. "people" choose to ignore these facts and dwell on how "allegedly" great a champion she was!! We acknowledge that Hingis was indeed a champion, she made the best of the little competition that she had at a time when pushers could actually win grand slams, much credit to her. Most of what Hingis fans write about are true, the fans of Venus and Serena simply want to tell the other half of that truth. Remember; It easy to be biased when speaking about your favorite player, and this is ok, problem is; Hingis fans don't want to hear about the bitch that she really was!! I hope that I have answered your question!

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I agree, Williams fans are always saying how their favorites made Hingis retire, it's so old and totally untrue, Hingis had her physical problems, in stead of feeling for her and wishing her the best, they're just putting her down, probably because she started performing well earlier and she beat both sisters so much and because she spent so many weeks more at #1.
wow, us Williams fans aren't even individuals ("anymore" )

again, which threads are these?
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I agree, Williams fans are always saying how their favorites made Hingis retire, it's so old and totally untrue, Hingis had her physical problems, in stead of feeling for her and wishing her the best, they're just putting her down, probably because she started performing well earlier and she beat both sisters so much and because she spent so many weeks more at #1.
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wow, us Williams fans aren't even individuals ("anymore" )

again, which threads are these?
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......so obsessed with Martina Hingis?

Notice how many threads there are started by Williams fans in which the main purpose seems to be to tear down Hingis.

The record is what it is and all the complaints in the world can't change it. Martina held the number one ranking for as long as she held it. That isn't going to change. The Williams sisters chose not to play full schedules, often for non-medical reasons. That was their choice. Martina didn't keep them out of tournaments, they chose not to play. If you have problems, see the Williams sisters, not Hingis.

Hingis continues to be very popular, though, as the recent polls on this board proves. That seems to anger some Williams fans. Again, this has nothing to do with Hingis. Venus and Serena have either made fans or they haven't, either are popular with the other players or they are not.

Venus came on the tour and said "I'm not here to make friends."

No one forced her to say that. She has probably changed some since then, but whatever popularity she has, with fans or with other players, has nothing to do with Hingis.

So why do so many Williams fans feel the need to constantly devote so much time to tearing down Hingis?
This is one Williams sisters fan that doesn't give a damn about Martina Hingis and I really don't care that she has retired. She may have stayed at number one for longer than either sister and has more titles (for now), but it is a safe bet that Venus and Serena will exceed her in that area. She never played Fed Cup for her country to my knowledge and didn't represent her country in the Olympics like the sisters did (and won Gold medals). Serena won the French Open in her first final, something Ms. Hingis couldn't achieve though she was in the FO final four straight years from 1997-2000. Venus is still young enough and has the game to win the FO.

Face it; your favorite burned out at an early age and was run out of the game by players who started playing better (not just the sisters) and because she didn't properly take care of her injuries because of her precious world ranking.

Get a life. And get the fuck on.
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at the end of the day when Serena has like 10 majors and a bunch of other titles, do you think anyone┤s gonna care about Hingis having a couple more weeks at no.1 than Serena?! PLease!!!!
EXACTLY!!This is what scares Hingis fans!! Every little thing that Serena or Venus achieves will push Hingis further into the darkness, and five years from now when S&V retire and the competition on the wta tour reverts back to prehistoric..errrr..the day that Hingis dominated, you bet your sweet ass that Hingis will be miraculously cured of her "alleged" foot ailment and she will return back to the tour, to try and match the accomplishments of S&V!!

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