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Apologize to one's opponent when the ball hits the net. Does anyone knows the origin of this outdated practice? I can never understand the logic of apologizing for winning a point against your opponent all because the stupid ball hits the net and you win the point. If you are thay sorry, why not give them the point?

Another outdated custom that needs to go is showing the ball to your opponent when its a new ball. Isn't it the job of the chair umpire to announce new balls?

Any other tennis customs that are outdated?

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in my opinion, you apologize because you scored a point that you necesarily shouldn't have. its not like people hit the ball off the netcord for a reason. is it??? on the other hand, when that happens you could be like "take that you bitch, don't fuck with me"

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It's not really an apology, more an acknowledgement that there was an element of luck winning the point. Similarly, the 'new balls' thing is just a courtesy.
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well it's not an apology, just an aknowledgement that luck played a part...

but for some reason i've never seen a player who receives a let cord that sets up (and then they hit an aggressive shot and win the point) i don't think i've seen them raise their hand... odd
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Declan hits the nail on the head. It is just acknowledging that you got lucky on that point. I think it is a classy thing to do.
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Declan hits the nail on the head. It is just acknowledging that you got lucky on that point. I think it is a classy thing to do.
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It's not really an apology, more an acknowledgement that there was an element of luck winning the point. Similarly, the 'new balls' thing is just a courtesy.
Wise words .
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Before tennis became a pro sport it was a leisure "Gentlemens and
Women's" social activity. This is why there's no lights at WIMBLEDON or
that they don't play on sunday. It harks back to the old uppper class
era where they don't play at night because they did social things, and
sunday wasn't used as a day of "play" because again, they unlike the
lower class didn't need Sunday as a day of rest or sport as their only
day off.

Why do men play 5 sets? Again..like cricket it goes back to
being a rich person's social sport. Nobody had a job, so it didn't
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I've always thought it's total bullshit... and I find it more annoying to be insincere like that.

However, at times hitting the net cord can be intentional. I often do on drop volleys.
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I agree with Lina. It's bullshit. I seriously doubt there is one person ever that was actually sorry to win the point, so why apologize?


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Apologize to one's opponent when the ball hits the net. Does anyone knows the origin of this outdated practice? I can never understand the logic of apologizing for winning a point against your opponent all because the stupid ball hits the net and you win the point. If you are thay sorry, why not give them the point?

Another outdated custom that needs to go is showing the ball to your opponent when its a new ball. Isn't it the job of the chair umpire to announce new balls?

Any other tennis customs that are outdated?
Tennis was/is a sport for ladies and gentlemen. Part of the tradition of the sport is NOT taking any unfair advantage of your opponent. New ball are a little more active. The server knows they are new. The receiver may not. The gentile thing, the sporting thing to do, is MAKE SURE the reciever knows, rather than leave it the chair umpire. In tennis, both players are supposed to make the extra effort to be absolutely sure that everything is fair, and no one has any advantage other than an athletic one over any other player.

One of my favroite points in al of tennis was a replay. It was an Evert/Navratilova match, and there was a dispute over a line call. The two met at net, talked it over, and TOLD the chair umpire they were replaying the point. They didn't leave it up to the chair umpire, they simply inform them that they were doing the fair thing. THAT'S tennis, to an old school type like me.

That's why the whole 'hand' thing with Justine offended so many people. It was something a traditionalist would never, ever do. It's also why so many people didn't understand why it was such a big deal. In most sports, if the ref doesn't call it, it isn't cheating. In SOME sports, if you don't get CAUGHT, it isn't cheating. To you, those are 'outdated customs'. To me, they're part of the reason why tennis is the coolest sport.

Martial arts has the same thing. If you're in the ring with a beginner, an old vet like me can romp and stomp them. But it isn't sporting. It shows a lack of respect for the opponent, a lack of respect for the art and by extension, a lack of respect for yourself.

It most certainly is NOT bullshit, but it IS old school.

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Tennis was/is a sport for ladies and gentlemen. Part of the tradition of the sport is NOT taking any unfair advantage of your opponent. New ball are a little more active. The server knows they are new. The receiver may not. The gentile thing, the sporting thing to do, is MAKE SURE the reciever knows, rather than leave it the chair umpire. In tennis, both players are supposed to make the extra effort to be absolutely sure that everything is fair, and no one has any advantage other than an athletic one over any other player.

One of my favroite points in al of tennis was a replay. It was an Evert/Navratilova match, and there was a dispute over a line call. The two met at net, talked it over, and TOLD the chair umpire they were replaying the point. They didn't leave it up to the chair umpire, they simply inform them that they were doing the fair thing. THAT'S tennis, to an old school type like me.

That's why the whole 'hand' thing with Justine offended so many people. It was something a traditionalist would never, ever do. It's also why so many people didn't understand why it was such a big deal. In most sports, if the ref doesn't call it, it isn't cheating. In SOME sports, if you don't get CAUGHT, it isn't cheating. To you, those are 'outdated customs'. To me, they're part of the reason why tennis is the coolest sport.

Martial arts has the same thing. If you're in the ring with a beginner, an old vet like me can romp and stomp them. But it isn't sporting. It shows a lack of respect for the opponent, a lack of respect for the art and by extension, a lack of respect for yourself.
Volcano, your sanctimony aside, how the hell does the ball landing on the net creates an unfair advantage? Has it occurred to you tennis purists that a ball landing on the net could land on EITHER side of the net? And if the ball does land on your your side, should the opponent (who gets the point) apologize for the lucky break? Would you?

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if i do it in a match and i know the guy im like " sorry dude " but if i dont know the person im like " "
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wow... somke ppl just keep missing boats around here... raising your hand isn't saying "sorry" it's like saying "yep, got lucky there..."
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