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post #1 of 81 (permalink) Old Apr 20th, 2004, 07:30 PM Thread Starter
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Who was the better player: Graf or Seles

Here is their H2H
Steffi GRAF (GER) v Monica SELES (USA)

1989 French Open Clay (O) SF Steffi GRAF 6-3 3-6 6-3
1989 Wimbledon Grass (O) 16 Steffi GRAF 6-0 6-1
1989 Brighton Carpet (I) FR Steffi GRAF 7-5 6-4
1990 German Open Clay (O) FR Monica SELES 4-6 3-6
1990 French Open Clay (O) FR Monica SELES 6-7(6) 4-6
1991 San Antonio Hard (O) FR Steffi GRAF 6-4 6-3
1991 Hamburg Clay (O) FR Steffi GRAF 7-5 6-7 6-3
1992 French Open Clay (O) FR Monica SELES 2-6 6-3 8-10
1992 Wimbledon Grass (O) FR Steffi GRAF 6-2 6-1
1993 Australian Open Hard (O) FR Monica SELES 6-4 3-6 2-6
1995 US Open Hard (O) FR Steffi GRAF 7-6 0-6 6-3
1996 US Open Hard (O) FR Steffi GRAF 7-5 6-4
1998 W.T.A. Tour Championships Carpet (I) QF Steffi GRAF 1-6 6-4 6-4
1999 Australian Open Hard (O) QF Monica SELES 5-7 1-6
1999 French Open Clay (O) SF Steffi GRAF 6-7(2) 6-3 6-4

Steffi GRAF (GER) leads 10 : 5

*Graf has a better record against all active players (including vs. Hingis, Davenport and Young Williams sisters, Jana Novatna).
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Dokic H2H is 1-1
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Dokic H2H is 1-1
I ment active players..THAT MATTER (or MATTERED)
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I ment active players..THAT MATTER (or MATTERED)
Yea, none of the other players that "matter" have been in a slump...
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Yea, none of the other players that "matter" have been in a slump...
It was a joke, take a chill pill, get off the over-reaction train, keep your pants on, hold your breath and count to ten.
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Graf was the better player.
The matches were very great to look at!
Graf was such an elegance, beautiful tennisplayer.
Really Great!!!!! I really want her back on the tenniscourt.



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They were both great! and I hope this doesn't start another Graf/ Seles argument!
I liked Steffi more.. but Monica was fab too.

Steffi never played Dokic in a WTA match, they played twice during Steffi's farewell exhibition series.
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hehe here we go again
Wasn't gonna add b ut couldnt help it ....
Graf was better
Their H2H shows that between 91-93 ( a la pre stabbing!!), that Graf was right with Seles. People are quick to say Seles was just in a class of her own, Graf could handle her though,it's not like Seles was thrashing her!!
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Well I think that if Seles wasn't stabbed in Germany ten years ago she would have gone onto greater success than Steffi and the whole Grand Slam results sheet would look very different.
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Well I think that if Seles wasn't stabbed in Germany ten years ago she would have gone onto greater success than Steffi and the whole Grand Slam results sheet would look very different.
I agree!! For me,Seles was a better player without doubt!She deserved her place of number 1 obviously when she was stabbed!

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Donīt know about better...all I know that without stabbing Graf wins fewer than 22 majors and Seles wins more than 9.

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I think that question is much to difficult

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seles was definately the better player.

I tend to judge to players against each other comparing them when they are at their best, and I think that when seles was at her best, and graf was at her best, seles would have won. IMO.

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Pre-stabbing, Seles is better

Post-stabbing, Graf is better

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