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Smile Since Serena Won - It Will Be Great For Women's Tennis

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IMO!

See - now it is really beginning to heat up on Centre Court - this spring and summer. Justine & Serena will be the match-up of the year when they first meet, indeed.

Do you all agree that Serena winning her first tourney back will only help the tour now? We remember when - Justine and the like were saying that the Sisters were bad for tennis because they won all the time. Does Justine think that she is bad for tennis, for example, since she wins all the time?

Having all the ladies back and healthy could only be great for the game of tennis, IMO.


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The first one since Steffi Graf to win it three times in a row and that after 8!!! months without play! Tier I title no.7! DAAANNNNGG!!

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Congrats Serena!
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Smile Miami Bad

The Miami tourney has not let me down as far as excitement goes in years.

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Serena wins her 18th consecutive match at the NASDAQ-100

Serena wins her 6th consecutive match since her come back

Serena wins her 13th consecutive match on the WTA tour.

....guess who's back in the Mickey-Fickey House- SERENA!

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Congrats Serena. That serve is still a weapon, although she wasn't as nimble as she can be.

Elena, that serve was her achilles heel, she didn't hold serve once! And the UEs!

From the ground, the match was pretty even, but Elena played scared. None of the fearlessness we saw against Venus.

Serena's comeback is gona be very interesting!
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Having all the ladies back and healthy has always been what's best for the women's game.

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Yep, having Serena back and in good form is a good thing, contrary to how the tennis media is trying to spin it into a negative reflection on the tour. I saw that coming a mile away. I knew if Serena won, especially if she won comfortably, they would be out in force with their "what does that say about the women's tour?" comments, conveniently ignoring the tough matches Serena had earlier, or the fact that she lives with one of the best 5 players in the world (great sparring partner), or any dropoff in Dementieva's performance level. Newsflash: when the favorite plays well, and the underdog doesn't, you get one-sided matches. On BOTH tours. It's just that one of them doesn't get every such instance held up as some sort of condemnation.

Did anyone catch the idiocy from MacAtee? He did one of those "what does it say...?" spiels about Dementieva's play in the final and her ranking. Hello! She didn't get to the top 8 by playing like that. If she played like that every day, she'd be nowhere near the top 8. (Did he even watch the match with Venus?) Maybe the networks ought to consider hiring... oh... someone that actually follows the sport.

I've always said that having a great player return and play well is a good thing. It was good when Monica did it, and it's good to see Serena do it. And it will only get better as more of the wounded warriors rejoin the fray.
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What they also conveniently forget, Brian, is that Serena did not have to play any of the top 10 apart from Dementieva in this tournament. That's not taking away from a wonderful comeback in any way but just to point out that things would have been a lot tighter if she'd met, say, Capriati, Davenport or Mauresmo in the qf and the two Belgians in the sf and final rounds.

With Serena back and Justine on top form we can look forward to a fantastic spring with the reigning queen trying to keep her throne against the previous queen returning from exile. The fact that this portion of the tour is on clay only adds to the excitement as it is on that surface these two are evenly matched.

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But that is nothing new....Justine didn´t face a top 10 player at IW, until in the finals against Lindsay...In fact almost all the tournament victories this year have been against top 15-20 players...so don´t come play that trick here. Besides, the last two years Serena has beaten everybody at Miami anyways..

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But that is nothing new....Justine didn´t face a top 10 player at IW, until in the finals against Lindsay...In fact almost all the tournament victories this year have been against top 15-20 players...so don´t come play that trick here. Besides, the last two years Serena has beaten everybody at Miami anyways..
bandabou, Justine did face 2 top 5 in IW

This year, Justine beat Kim (#2, Melbourne), Amelie (#3, Sydney), Lindsay (#4, Melbourne & IW), Nastya (#5, IW).


So she's beaten every player of the top 5, in straight sets except for Kim (but honestly she should have )...

Apart for Dubaï (Tier 2), Justine did have to face at least one top 5 in every tournament this year, so don't act as if Serena's brillant performances against out-of-top-20 players and Dementieva (ranked 63 in the Race for the Championships ranking!) are exactly the same as Justine's
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bandabou, Justine did face 2 top 5 in IW

This year, Justine beat Kim (#2, Melbourne), Amelie (#3, Sydney), Lindsay (#4, Melbourne & IW), Nastya (#5, IW).


So she's beaten every player of the top 5, in straight sets except for Kim (but honestly she should have )...

Apart for Dubaï (Tier 2), Justine did have to face at least one top 5 in every tournament this year, so don't act as if Serena's brillant performances against out-of-top-20 players and Dementieva (ranked 63 in the Race for the Championships ranking!) are exactly the same as Justine's
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I forgot about Myskina at IW.... just saying that one shouldn´t be playing the weak-draw card for this Serena win, because the whole Belgian-domination BEGAN due to weak-draws. Or am I mistaken?! Anyone really believes that al those summer hardcourt events would have been won by the Belgians with a healthy Serena and Venus playing?!Serena played a nice tournament in her come-back. Nobody crowned her as the best player, we all know the real tests are still ahead.

P.s.: The same player ranked 63 in the champions race nearly beat Justine twice last year...

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I forgot about Myskina at IW.... just saying that one shouldn´t be playing the weak-draw card for this Serena win, because the whole Belgian-domination BEGAN due to weak-draws. Or am I mistaken?! Anyone really believes that al those summer hardcourt events would have been won by the Belgians with a healthy Serena and Venus playing?!Serena played a nice tournament in her come-back. Nobody crowned her as the best player, we all know the real tests are still ahead.

P.s.: The same player ranked 63 in the champions race nearly beat Justine twice last year...
Well, as far as I know, apart from Serena and Venus, the other top players were healthy during the summer hardcourt season. Who knows what would have happened "if"?

Anyway, the only thing I'm trying to say here is you're wrong when you say "Nobody crowned Serena as the best player", because a lot of people on this board did. Maybe she is, but I want to see her beat all the top 5 before I admit Serena's the best (I don't think I'll have to ). Until there, Justine is still the best thing since sliced bread

BTW Elena wasn't the same player as she is now, neither was Justine...

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Well, as far as I know, apart from Serena and Venus, the other top players were healthy during the summer hardcourt season. Who knows what would have happened "if"?

Anyway, the only thing I'm trying to say here is you're wrong when you say "Nobody crowned Serena as the best player", because a lot of people on this board did. Maybe she is, but I want to see her beat all the top 5 before I admit Serena's the best (I don't think I'll have to ). Until there, Justine is still the best thing since sliced bread

BTW Elena wasn't the same player as she is now, neither was Justine...
But the players ranked ahead of Juju: Serena and Venus...the ones who DOMINATED the hardcourts since ´99, weren´t there. The other players were never a factor on hardcourts. Besides, Justine hasn´t even taken a set off Serena on non-clay surfaces anyway, so I don´t know what you wanna imply.

We will see who´s the best...luckily for Justine it´s the clay-season now, but I´ll wait for judgement after wimbledon....

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It is great to see Serena back

Now hopefully Venus and Jennifer can go back to form. Kim recover to injury and potentially we can have a great rest of year to enjoy

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