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post #1 of 60 (permalink) Old Feb 22nd, 2004, 10:43 PM Thread Starter
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Anyone beginning to find Kim annoying?

Not as a person because she's as nice as they come. But as a tennis player. Because I think she's underachieving in slams and overachieving everywhere else and she's HAPPY with that. And that's not right. It is, if you're around 30 and you've never won a slam and you've just been ranked 5-15 all your career, but it isn't if you're in your early 20's has been a few GS finals and has been #1 and know that you have what it takes to be the next great player.

Fact is, even though she's in her early 20's time is running out. The top is crowded and there are many up-and-coming players.

When Martina Hingis went for a few years without slams but was still racking up the year-end championships, Tier I's and was still been the world #1, it was ok in my eyes, because she was already a 5 time grand slam champion. Her place in history was assured already. Anything else she did, she only added to her accomplishments.

But Kim doesn't have that luxury. What's worse, I think she's taking these GS losses too lightly. Hingis used to really get down on herself when she lost those GS finals. She came back eventually but not as quickly as Kim. I mean how long ago was it that she lost the Aussie Open final in a very disappointed fashion and now she's back winning back-to-back tournaments? WTF? If I was her, I'd play less tennis (something I NEVER encourage anyone) but in her case she needs to. And work on her game and try to show her opponents something DIFFERENT for the slams. Save some strategies for the slams. Don't show yourself week in, week out.

What do you think?

Unless of course, she's planning to quit tennis in a few years and she's happy just winning tournaments and making money and doesn't really care about making an impact in tennis history. Then I guess what she's doing is ok.
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post #2 of 60 (permalink) Old Feb 22nd, 2004, 10:45 PM
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I agree 100%, and the best part is, Kim will only win a slam if no top player is in the field.

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IMO the best thing for her to do is play. She will win a slam soon and it will all be ok and all of this talk will be over.

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There is a lot and lot of time for kim to catch up and even surpass her peers in the slam title count. Especially in the women tour, where a player could transform from a mediocre to a great player. How long did it take Justine to collect three slams? How about Serena? Just under a year? Kim seems to me a very consistent player, and she just has to elevate her level for a few months and, before you know it, she will be counted among the greats.

Besides, if JenCap could come back from the slump she was in and win those slams, why couldn't Kim - who is actually dominating the tour minus two or three players?
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I agree 100%, and the best part is, Kim will only win a slam if no top player is in the field.
I think it's more likely that she'll win a slam with Serena as an opponent than with Henin. Serena is insanely better, but Clijsters just plays complete shit against JHH
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Kim is a good tennis player and she will eventually win a GS. I don't find her annoying. There are other people that i definately find more annoying (but i wont mention names). Just give her time and she will win!

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There is a lot and lot of time for kim to catch up and even surpass her peers in the slam title count. Especially in the women tour, where a player could transform from a mediocre to a great player. How long did it take Justine to collect three slams? How about Serena? Just under a year? Kim seems to me a very consistent player, and she just has to elevate her level for a few months and, before you know it, she will be counted among the greats.

Besides, if JenCap could come back from the slump she was in and win those slams, why couldn't Kim - who is actually dominating the tour minus two or three players?
The difference is Jenn showed something in that Australian Open 2001 that she's never shown before. Remember, she lost to Hingis in an exhibition a few weeks before that match, but brought her A game to the slam.

That's what Kim needs to do. Maybe she should tank ( ) a few of the lead-up tournament matches and bring her A game to the slams.
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That's what Kim needs to do. Maybe she should tank ( ) a few of the lead-up tournament matches and bring her A game to the slams.
Definately disagree with that logic. I think those players who perform great for a few slams will soon lose the plot and their reign at the top will be very shot lived. The players, who play at the consistently higher level, and Clijsters is miss consistency, will slowly integrate into their game whatever it takes to be a multi-slam champion. It pains me to say this: but, where is Jenn now? And, how about Serena? They were a one-year, or two-years at most, wonders, but they are gone now. I am pretty sure Justine will also follow this script soon. But, I have a feeling once Kim starts to win slams, she will be there for the long overhaul. Year in and year out. That's because she has been continually building on her, I have to use this word again, consistently high level game. There wouldn't be a sudden rise and drop in her playing style, just slow and small incrementals.

Why the f*ck do I feel like I am talking about stock market?

Anyways, my point is that the first slam will be the hardest for Kim but after that she will keep on winning them for long.
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i would say wwhat i think about kim, but i always get neg. rep. whenever i do

lets just say i dont like the girl

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WTF Jennifer Capriati is still around!!! Do you watch tennis. She hasn't won a grand slam for awhile, but she is always hanging around and is still in the top five!!! How can you say where is she now when she is number 5 and played great tennis last year. She will win more tournements this year and will have more slams at the end of her career. I just don't understand how you can say that. Serena is the same way she is hurt and that is why she stopped winning not because she was a 2 year wonder. Jen will be back in just a few short days and will show you along with all of the other people that doubt her that she is a true champion and a true number 1.

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post #11 of 60 (permalink) Old Feb 22nd, 2004, 11:45 PM
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I think Kim's attitude towards her failure at the slams is really cowardly. We all know winning isn't everything, but to come soooo close --- not just once --- has got to be irritating as hell. Instead, she gives the impression it's nothing and she's ok with it. She even mentions retiring soon as if to further impress upon us that she's totally satisfied thus far. Either she is tremendously fake or tremendously gutless.
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Kim said she was tired at the end of last year. She is now cutting back on doubles tournaments to concentrate on slams
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I think Kim's attitude towards her failure at the slams is really cowardly. We all know winning isn't everything, but to come soooo close --- not just once --- has got to be irritating as hell. Instead, she gives the impression it's nothing and she's ok with it. She even mentions retiring soon as if to further impress upon us that she's totally satisfied thus far. Either she is tremendously fake or tremendously gutless.
So, what you are saying is the fact that Kim didn't cry herself out in a post-match interview after she was dumped out of a slam, and didn't accuse her opponent of 'lying and fabricating' while she was at it, makes her a coward? What good will it do to her?
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not annoying, but she does need to start taking the slam losses a little harder. theres no reason she shouldn't have one by now.
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no, but i find you very annoying...
Trash, you don't exist in my eyes. Take your shit somewhere else.
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