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I am a new member and without intending to be controversial I figured the following question could spark a lively debate:

In pro mixed doubles do men serve easier and basically take it easy, not drilling balls at net, etc., to the opposing women?

In my opinion men do not take it easy at all. Perhaps at net they do not drill the ball in mixed doubles, but Im not sure. I havent seen enough mixed doubles to say. However, in the matches I have seen, the women seem more than capable of holding their own. And I might add, many women pros one would think could be pros on the mens circuit.....What are your views?

Very interested in your comments and knowledge of mixed doubles.....
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I don't think the men hold back because then they would be dissapointing their female partner.
So it's either dissapointing their partner and giving the other duo a chance to win points, or impressing both teams and winning points in the process.

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Pamela - please elaborate....what does you mean in saying that?

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The man has to do everything he can to protect woman's serve. If not, he's going to be pressured on his own serve game.
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Pamela - please elaborate....what does you mean in saying that?
The words Chris and easy are systematic.

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My feeling is that tennis is gentlemens/ladies sport. Meaning that if the opponent is caught up at net and there is an easy overhead, the person is not going to smash the ball in attempt to hurt the other person, be they a man or women. So no way do the men 'hold back' on the women. Definitely not!

On another note, mixed doubles is very very intersting and enjoyable to watch and Id like to see it become more and more popular. my favorite mixed doubles team is Elena Bovina and Mark Knowles........

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Depends on how crappy both players are in doubles Seriously, the better each player is in regular doubles, the better and more equal they are as a team. I haven't seen much mixed myself, but if the strategies of regular doubles play, the other team probably tries to hit as much to the weaker partner as possible.

The men aren't as rude, aka drilling the ball at net or hitting it especially hard *at* a player.

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Of course they do not take it easy. They get paid lots of money for winning.
Women know what they get themselves into when playing mixed, and women are very strong with return of serves and volleys. For volleys you do not necessarily need massive power, but touch and reflexes. And the return of serve, most are better than men in my opinion.
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i dont think they take it easy. in club on the other hand, in club tennis it happens a lot but only on the serve really, in club i tend to take it easy with my serve against females but with my groundies i dont as much. the only reason i do it with my serve is because one of my old teamates said she hates it when the guys hit their serve at full strength coz some woman cant handle it (she got hit in the face with a guys serve once) actually i feel really sorry for the women when i rally with them coz they stumble trying to get to the ball but dont get anywhere near it, but its funny when im rallying with the guys because they can get to it but they cant move the feet (actually most of the time i just hit it straight to them and they can get out of the way and i beat them for pace and they cant get it back)

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yes, they do, even if on an unconscious level... the easy way to see it is to check the average speed of the male player while serving to the female opponent as opposed to the male one... you'll realize that the average speed of the serve is a good couple of miles down... or do you really think Mark Philoppoussis would serve a 130mph bomb to a lady player and risk being called on his antics?
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No dont think they take it easy

Mixed is only played in Grand Slams and so when men and women play this (mostly doubs play nehow or low ranked singles) the mean business . . . they wont the money, experience and match play

if women (like serena williams and now golfers like davies and sorrenesom) beleive they can compete with men then for the men to take it easy would be patronising and ironical against the opposing female player

although im sure u realise that every possible ball will go to the womens player in mixed doubs just by watching a few matches this is obvious

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I think Mixed Doubles is one of the most enjoyable forms of the game, personally. Men are physically stronger than most women, however, women, out of necessity, (and what Billie Jean King has often pointed out as the lack of exposure to athletics the same way boys are exposed at an early age) have developed their minds for the tactical side of doubles, and actually compliment the play. Mixed Doubles is often times more interesting than either Men's or Women's doubles because of this variety.

In answer to your question, yes, I do believe men adjust by taking pace off many first serves to women, and opting to spin, because many times it's more effective. Goran Ivanisevic played a Mixed match at Wimbledon a few years back, and Martina Hingis had no trouble blocking his 120mph flat serves back at his feet. I wish we would see more of the top male players taking Mixed Doubles seriously, because it would definitely add more variety and depth to their game. I know, it's a guy thing, but seriously, try it- you'll like it! And besides, if you play with a woman who is a stronger player, say a level above where your game is- you're basically playing Men's Doubles at that point anyway.

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im a guy and ive always played mixed doubles, i agree it is really fun, however i do have more success in mens doubles than mixed. one of my female teamates whacks the hell out of the ball and has a gr8 serve, when she is on our opponents are stuffed (even the guys have trouble).

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If anything they try to hit the ball more to the women


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