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A Philosophical Question

This is not a bashing thread at all. I am just asking a question re: reverse racism.


If Tennis was a black dominated sport and two white sisters became number 1 and 2...would they be recognized for such things as

"the first White Tennis Player to...."
"The first white tennis siters..."

or...would the media 'not pay attention' to these records.
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This is not a bashing thread at all. I am just asking a question re: reverse racism.


If Tennis was a black dominated sport and two white sisters became number 1 and 2...would they be recognized for such things as

"the first White Tennis Player to...."
"The first white tennis siters..."

or...would the media 'not pay attention' to these records.
Depends on whether tennis began as a black ONLY sport.
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Depends on whether tennis began as a black ONLY sport.
let's say it did.
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I think so. Mark Price, of US basketball, was well talked about when I was young. He was a short white guy playing in a sport where there are mostly tall black people.

I miss Mark Price...
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let's say it did.
Then yes the black media would give them the title "First white tennis players...."
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please tell me they are NOT Belgian sisters.........PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!
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duh!the race that is discriminated, that makes it far somewhere is always given media attention.

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Sometimes commentators are so "race-sensitive" That They bring it Up Unnecessarily. Specifically, when the first W/S Slam final occured, Chrissie was going on about "...the first time 2 African-American sisters...". I wanted to scream @ the TV:

"Hey genius, its the first time 2 sisters have met in a Slam final, period". (Then I remembered all the ones between her and Jeannie Evert...)
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Sometimes commentators are so "race-sensitive" That They bring it Up Unnecessarily. Specifically, when the first W/S Slam final occured, Chrissie was going on about "...the first time 2 African-American sisters...". I wanted to scream @ the TV:

"Hey genius, its the first time 2 sisters have met in a Slam final, period". (Then I remembered all the ones between her and Jeannie Evert...)
You're mean.

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I would not classify this as reverse racism.

Just because someone is the "first" to do something who happens not to be a white American does not mean there is discrimination or reverse racism. I'm sure the first woman to accomplish something was special because she was the first woman. There is significance in that just as there is significance with what the Williams Sisters accomplished.

I think the idea of reverse racism or discrimination only comes into play by people who feel that when they are born a spot at Harvard or a spot on the tour or a spot wherever is reserved for them simply because of their own race. When someone else who is different comes up and accomplishes what they wish for and think is only for people like them, they cry of reverse this and reverse that to invalidate and lower the accomplishment of that other someone.
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Is there really racism in tennis?? Venus and Serena claim there is? but from whom?

"On the coin toss Martina said, "Do you want me to break your serve first or hold?" The umpire looked shocked. But we just both cracked up."
Lindsay Davenport, on a match she played with Martina Hingis.

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If both these sisters were Anna Kournikova type sorts, I definitely watch them
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This is not a bashing thread at all. I am just asking a question re: reverse racism.


If Tennis was a black dominated sport and two white sisters became number 1 and 2...would they be recognized for such things as

"the first White Tennis Player to...."
"The first white tennis siters..."

or...would the media 'not pay attention' to these records.
This would have to be a black world before the "first white" anything will be recognized.



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Depends on whether tennis began as a black ONLY sport.
We would also have to consider the fan base of that sport. Mostly black?
White? What about the media warlords? CEO's of sponsoring companies?

What will be interesting is when NASCAR has several successful Afro-American drivers. Just as in women's tennis, there will be an infusion of of new fans.
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I would not classify this as reverse racism.

Just because someone is the "first" to do something who happens not to be a white American does not mean there is discrimination or reverse racism. I'm sure the first woman to accomplish something was special because she was the first woman. There is significance in that just as there is significance with what the Williams Sisters accomplished.

I think the idea of reverse racism or discrimination only comes into play by people who feel that when they are born a spot at Harvard or a spot on the tour or a spot wherever is reserved for them simply because of their own race. When someone else who is different comes up and accomplishes what they wish for and think is only for people like them, they cry of reverse this and reverse that to invalidate and lower the accomplishment of that other someone.
RIGHT ON!!
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