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Who is the best double player in the history?

Martina Navratilova!!!
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Justine Henin .... Oh no, wait, that's the best singlesplayer in history

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Martina Hingis is #2. She won everything with EVERYONE
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Martina Navratilova

Hingis probably isn't in the top five.

Shriver
Gigi
Natasha
Stubbs
Raymond
Court

All would be ranked above Hingis

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Martina Navratilova!!!
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I think its Martina Navratilova. She is still playing and she is already 47 years old or something like that. The only thing that she hasn't won yet is a gold medal at the Olympics. But she wants to win it in Athens.
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I think its Martina Navratilova. She is still playing and she is already 47 years old or something like that. The only thing that she hasn't won yet is a gold medal at the Olympics. But she wants to win it in Athens.
But she can't win unless I come out of retirement....

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Interesting question.

Based on results, Navratilova was clearly the best.

Hingis the second best.

Raymond and Stubbs? Not even close. While doubles specialists, neither has won as many slam doubles titles as Hingis, much less a calender year grand slam. Hingis captured 9 slam doubles titles and 36 doubles titles overall and nobody ever claimed she was a doubles specialist. She sat at the very top of the singles rankings most of that time.

The other thing to remember is, Hingis won her 9 slam doubles titles with six different partners. Three of them, Kournkova, Pierce and Lucic, never won a major doubles title with anyone else.

Nobody carried Hingis. She carried others.

The three greatest doubles teams in women's tennis history were

Navratilova/Shriver

Zvereva/ Fernandez

Hingis and whoever her partner happened to be at the time.
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i know she isnt close to be the best, but she still should be recognized, Lindsay Davenport
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When asked once in an interview in Tennis Week magazine who was the toughest doubles opponent she ever faced, Natasha said "Hingis." She said Martina had better disguise on her shots than anyone she'd ever played.

And Zvereva has faced Navratilova.

Hingis in my view gets the nood because of the variety of people with whom she has won slams, the fact that she has that calendar year grand slam (something only three other women have done, Bueno, Navratilova/Shriver) and because Martina was also ruling singles at the time. Natasha, great as she was in doubles, only won four singles titles in her career. Hingis was simultaneously ranked number one in the world in both singles and doubles, something achieved by only four other women. (ASV, Davenport, Navratilova and Clijsters.)

When Natasha played with GiGi, they were an amazing pair. Martina was amazing no matter who she played with (which at the AO in '97, included Natasha.)

Renmenber, Hingis even partnered with Monica Seles, not exactly a legend in doubles, and beat the Williams sisters.

Can you imagine how many doubles titles she might have won had she just been a doubles specialist like Natasha or some of the others?

Indeed, look at Martina's record with Kournikova. They actually played something like 71 matches together and only lost four times. (they were defeated in several other walkovers when one or the other pulled out due to injury.

In terms of number of slam titles and doubles victories, Natasha comes out on top. But Hingis' overall abilities in doubles are simply greater than anyone's other than Navratilova.

And Martina number one pretty much admits that.

After she and Arantxa played and lost to Hingis/Kournilova in Germany in 2001 (I think) Martina N. aid she now felt she played every great player in doubles (during her own lifetime, I assume.)

But Navratilova didn't let it end there. Last fall at Staples Center, in an interview with Eurosport, Navratilova was trying to urge Hingis to come back so they could play doubles together, saying that would really cap off her career.

If you take women players and look at their entire careers, both singles and doubles, Hingis has to rate up there with Navratilova, King and Court.
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I think Tony P hit the nail in the right spot, Yes Hingis has only half of the number of slams as Zvereva, but Zvereva played for nearly a decade of doubles and entered twice as many doubles tournaments as Hingis ever did, besides the fact that she won titles with just about any decent player in doubles is proof of this. Yes Lucic inst or wasnt a pathetic doubles player but if it werent for Hingis i am pretty sure she would have not won that slam. Her doubles record is impressive, when paired with Kournikova she never lost more than one match for any given season they played together, and when paired with Novotna they were almost unbeatable. Shes even played with Capriati at the U.S open and made it to the 3rd round, lost due to lack of confidence back in late 01 and tired of playing both doubles and singles. Had Hingis played more doubles all of Zverevas #s would look average, she played less than half the number of tournies Zvereva played and won just about half of the # of titles Zvereva has and half the number of slams shes got too, i think she didnt take mixed as seriously or never played with a decent enough player to really be interested in pursuing the mixed, she simply was focused on her singles career and therefore where she practically outshined all of her peers during her generation.
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Martina Navratilova!!!
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I think you all forget Jana Novotna, who was the number one and won several slams. She and Hinmgis are the best team together with Navratilova/Shriver and Fernandez/Zvereva, but they are not behind them.

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