Monica Seles: The cleanest ball-striker in the history of women's tennis - TennisForum.com
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
post #1 of 90 (permalink) Old Feb 8th, 2004, 02:30 PM Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
hingis-seles's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Posts: 19,129
                     
Monica Seles: The cleanest ball-striker in the history of women's tennis

I was watching Monica's 1992 Wimbledon semifinal against Martina Navratilova and was just amazed at the shots she'd come up with. The angles, precision and power. It was all such absorbing tennis. It made me wonder if anyone has been a cleaner ball-striker in the history of women's tennis. The ability absolutely amazes me. In 2003, I got to watch a Monica practice session in Dubai and it was simply mesmerizing. She barely missed and was hitting so well and hard and accurately of both sides.

So, what do you guys think? Anyone who's been a better ball-striker than Monica Seles?

FUCK YOU, SEWTA.
[/SIZE]
hingis-seles is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 90 (permalink) Old Feb 8th, 2004, 02:31 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Belgium
Posts: 1,614
                     
There surely won't be many. But then it's so vital that she's well positioned and that's where things tend to go wrong
great smash is offline  
post #3 of 90 (permalink) Old Feb 8th, 2004, 02:36 PM Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
hingis-seles's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Posts: 19,129
                     
Quote:
Originally Posted by great smash
There surely won't be many. But then it's so vital that she's well positioned and that's where things tend to go wrong
I agree. The injuries and her lack of fitness have greatly hindered her. But honestly, I can not think of any other player who has ever hit the ball so well, so consistently. Obviously that was affected after 1993 due to her fitness issues, but she still seems to me to be the best ball-striker in history.

FUCK YOU, SEWTA.
[/SIZE]
hingis-seles is offline  
post #4 of 90 (permalink) Old Feb 8th, 2004, 02:37 PM
country flag SJW
Senior Member
 
SJW's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Allez
Posts: 11,016
                     
i'm sticking with Linzi Davenport

but Monica is right up there

you can hear the effor with Monica, but with Linzi it is just 100% natural
SJW is offline  
post #5 of 90 (permalink) Old Feb 8th, 2004, 02:38 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: What's it to ya, bub?
Posts: 2,981
                     
Quote:
Originally Posted by hingis-seles
I was watching Monica's 1992 Wimbledon semifinal against Martina Navratilova and was just amazed at the shots she'd come up with. The angles, precision and power. It was all such absorbing tennis. It made me wonder if anyone has been a cleaner ball-striker in the history of women's tennis. The ability absolutely amazes me. In 2003, I got to watch a Monica practice session in Dubai and it was simply mesmerizing. She barely missed and was hitting so well and hard and accurately of both sides.

So, what do you guys think? Anyone who's been a better ball-striker than Monica Seles?
I'll accept this. I mean, it's not like you're biased or anything. LOL.

The WTAworld Quote Hall of Fame (recent entries):
"All this year Kim has been have catwalk draws ..." - leslie, on Kim Clijsters' easy draws in 2003
"I wanna see Anna, I bet I could tape that ass" - SerenaSlam, on fan perception of Anna K.
"n I am more of a retard, yes." - gogomaggie
"she has a face of a cereal killer" - Naldo, on Serena Williams
Every post you make : Every dumb mistake : I'll be watching you
MarcusRock is offline  
post #6 of 90 (permalink) Old Feb 8th, 2004, 02:39 PM
country flag MLF
Senior Member
 
MLF's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Posts: 11,221
                     
Of the other players on the tour only Capriati & Davenport would rival Monica as cleanest striker of the ball. Tracy Austin hit a very clean ball.
MLF is offline  
post #7 of 90 (permalink) Old Feb 8th, 2004, 02:39 PM
Senior Member
 
Greenout's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Abroad with a passport
Posts: 16,036
                     
Lindsay, Mary, Kimiko Date etc.... Monica is not the cleanest hitter of
the ball in WTA history.

We usually associate "clean" hitting with players that take the
ball early on the "rise" like Jenn or believe it or not when she
use to know how to play ...Kournikova circa 1997.
Greenout is offline  
post #8 of 90 (permalink) Old Feb 8th, 2004, 02:39 PM
country flag SJW
Senior Member
 
SJW's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Allez
Posts: 11,016
                     
effor=effort
SJW is offline  
post #9 of 90 (permalink) Old Feb 8th, 2004, 02:40 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Posts: 24,252
                     
Lindsay Davenport, among active players. Her accuracy was uncanny. When she sets up, she simply doesn't mis-hit. Howevr, she could not hit the angles up the line Monica could. See the final of Toray Pan Pacific 2003.

Chris Evert - Most accurate player I've ever seen. NEFORE she even made the tour, it was said she could hit 100 straight balls into the same corner of the court without missing. A fanatic about practice. When Chris beat Rosie Casals when Chris was 14, Rosie was in tears. BJK consoled her by noting that Chris had 'probably hit more balls than we have'. Untouchable among living players inthe accuracy department.

Proud to be an American
Not blind. Not uninformed. We are party to atrocities. But the response of the world after 9/11 is worth noting. Even our most dire enemies offered aid. We should all be so lucky.
Volcana is offline  
post #10 of 90 (permalink) Old Feb 8th, 2004, 02:41 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: With Dmitry
Posts: 12,789
                     
Quote:
Originally Posted by MarcusRock
I'll accept this. I mean, it's not like you're biased or anything. LOL.


Darop. is offline  
post #11 of 90 (permalink) Old Feb 8th, 2004, 02:41 PM Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
hingis-seles's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Posts: 19,129
                     
Quote:
Originally Posted by MarcusRock
I'll accept this. I mean, it's not like you're biased or anything. LOL.
I never claimed to be unbiased.

FUCK YOU, SEWTA.
[/SIZE]
hingis-seles is offline  
post #12 of 90 (permalink) Old Feb 8th, 2004, 02:45 PM Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
hingis-seles's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Posts: 19,129
                     
Quote:
Originally Posted by Volcana
Lindsay Davenport, among active players. Her accuracy was uncanny. When she sets up, she simply doesn't mis-hit. Howevr, she could not hit the angles up the line Monica could. See the final of Toray Pan Pacific 2003.

Chris Evert - Most accurate player I've ever seen. NEFORE she even made the tour, it was said she could hit 100 straight balls into the same corner of the court without missing. A fanatic about practice. When Chris beat Rosie Casals when Chris was 14, Rosie was in tears. BJK consoled her by noting that Chris had 'probably hit more balls than we have'. Untouchable among living players inthe accuracy department.
Unfortunately, I have not had the opportunity to watch the Tokyo '03 final. Isn't it true for both Lindsay and Monica that they don't mist-hit when they set up?

Chris Evert! Can't believe I didn't think of her. Wasn't Monica a more powerful version of her though? I had not heard that anecdote about Chris Evert. Thanks for that.

FUCK YOU, SEWTA.
[/SIZE]
hingis-seles is offline  
post #13 of 90 (permalink) Old Feb 8th, 2004, 02:48 PM
country flag MLF
Senior Member
 
MLF's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Posts: 11,221
                     
Quote:
Originally Posted by Volcana
Chris Evert - Most accurate player I've ever seen. NEFORE she even made the tour, it was said she could hit 100 straight balls into the same corner of the court without missing. A fanatic about practice. When Chris beat Rosie Casals when Chris was 14, Rosie was in tears. BJK consoled her by noting that Chris had 'probably hit more balls than we have'. Untouchable among living players inthe accuracy department.
Volcana, I've no idea what age you are but have you seen any of the matches between Chris Evert & Tracy Austin between '79 & '81 when Tracy was really taking over their rivalry? That was before Tracy's injuries kicked in. I've only seen brief clips and was wondering how the younger Tracy managed to beat Chris at her own game.
MLF is offline  
post #14 of 90 (permalink) Old Feb 8th, 2004, 03:11 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Posts: 24,252
                     
Quote:
Originally Posted by MirjanaLfan
Volcana, I've no idea what age you are
Old

Quote:
but have you seen any of the matches between Chris Evert & Tracy Austin between '79 & '81 when Tracy was really taking over their rivalry?
yes

Quote:
how the younger Tracy managed to beat Chris at her own game.
Tracy Austin was a POWER htter. She was a little wisp of a thing, but she smacked the hell out of the ball. She beat Chris by clean overpowering her. In fact, if you listen to her commentary when she on, you'll usually hear references to the how hard she hit. She simply blew the ball by Chris.

Well, I oversimplify. Tracy wasn't QUITE as accurate as Chris, but she was close, and she could make the ball travel at (what was considered at the time) incredible rates of speed. Think Serena vs a weaker Lindsay.

The pity is injuries derailed her career. Austin-Navratilova is a rivalry we never saw, but it would have been great.

Proud to be an American
Not blind. Not uninformed. We are party to atrocities. But the response of the world after 9/11 is worth noting. Even our most dire enemies offered aid. We should all be so lucky.
Volcana is offline  
post #15 of 90 (permalink) Old Feb 8th, 2004, 03:31 PM
country flag MLF
Senior Member
 
MLF's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Posts: 11,221
                     
Thanks Volcana. I always assumed that Tracy must have hit with a bit more pace than Chris to make the difference as her game was basically moulded on Chris'.

I don't think people realise how huge a threat to Navratilova-Evert Tracy was. She had a stint at #1 and led Chris in head to head 9-7 and trailed Martina 20-14 when she retired. If for argument's sake you consider 1979 - 1981 the only period where Navratilova, Evert & Austin were all fit at the same time ( plus with Tracy being at a reasonable age to compete with them ) the head to heads are even more positive for Tracy. She led Chris 9-3 in that period and Martina 12-11 in that period.
MLF is offline  
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the TennisForum.com forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in









Image Verification
Please enter the six letters or digits that appear in the image opposite.

Registration Image

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page



Posting Rules  
You may not post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome