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Has men's tennis reclaimed the torch from the WTA?

after years of taking a beating at the hands of the women in popular appeal, it seems like the ATP is once again thriving in terms of having captivating star players and rivalries. For the first time since the pre-Spice Girls days (1996), the men look to have a clear marketing advantage over the women. I'm not saying the women have gotten boring, but most of the WTA's captivating rivalries, storylines, and personalities of the last 7-8 years have simply dried up. For those of us who are hardcore fans, the women are probly as interesting as ever, but i'm talking about wider public perception here, which is reflected in areas like TV and overall media coverage.
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I think womens popularity has gone down since the late 90's. I think with graf retireing and now Hingis gone, Kournikova having not played in so long, monica's injury's and age, jenn slumping again. I think the williams and belgians, the russians and of course Anna when she gets back can increase the popularity more. Yu need players to be fit to have long rivalries, hingis, davenport and the williams never really had long injuries, they were just minor ones. The tour just needs to stay healthy with the top 6-8 women fightin it out..

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I think you have a point, but then this is mostly due to the fact that injuries plagued and ruined half of the season last year and also right now.

Having said that men tennis is getting exciting, coz players like Federer, Agassi, Hewitt Safin, Roddick, Ferrero, Nalbanian etc. are really stepping up their authority over the rest of players, and the second week gonna be so exciting. However here come a hypocrisy.

I was watching BBC just now, and they are just all praise about how it is gonna be so exciting with so many household name advancing in men tennis. But they are complaining that there are not so many big names in women tennis. At the same time it was them who complain about the lack of depth in women tennis a couple years ago when the top 5/6 women really slaughtered the draw until the quarters (yes I am talking about you Andrew Castle ) In the end, average viewer want to watch matches which involved match with names which they recognised, most people will be happy to turn on their TV and watch Williams vs Kournikova for example even though most people know that Williams will win.

I disagree that it is all going downhill for women tennis though. If we are lucky, we will have at least 5 more years for the sisters and Belgians as they seem to want to haeva long career, eventually there will be someone who will be stepping up and challenge them as well. WTA need to have a more clear and focus marketing strategy. But in the end there is a limit for what they can do, there will always be a prejudice over men sport whichever way you look at it.

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By the way i didnt mean it was going down by the late 90's, cos if anything womens tennis was the most popular it has ever been from 98-2001.

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I think you have a point, but then this is mostly due to the fact that injuries plagued and ruined half of the season last year and also right now.

Having said that men tennis is getting exciting, coz players like Federer, Agassi, Hewitt Safin, Roddick, Ferrero, Nalbanian etc. are really stepping up their authority over the rest of players, and the second week gonna be so exciting. However here come a hypocrisy.

I was watching BBC just now, and they are just all praise about how it is gonna be so exciting with so many household name advancing in men tennis. But they are complaining that there are not so many big names in women tennis. At the same time it was them who complain about the lack of depth in women tennis a couple years ago when the top 5/6 women really slaughtered the draw until the quarters (yes I am talking about you Andrew Castle ) In the end, average viewer want to watch matches which involved match with names which they recognised, most people will be happy to turn on their TV and watch Williams vs Kournikova for example even though most people know that Williams will win.

I disagree that it is all going downhill for women tennis though. If we are lucky, we will have at least 5 more years for the sisters and Belgians as they seem to want to haeva long career, eventually there will be someone who will be stepping up and challenge them as well. WTA need to have a more clear and focus marketing strategy. But in the end there is a limit for what they can do, there will always be a prejudice over men sport whichever way you look at it.
By the way, doesn't Kim intend to retire at most two years from now? I think I've read that somewhere.

I personally have really become a lot more interested with men's tennis last year than the WTA. Personally because it's becoming reminiscent of the WTA drama and the exciting 'rivalries' that are forming between the youngsters. Safin has returned and he has declared that he's eyeing the No. 1 spot. Hewitt is back and it's interesting what this season holds for him. The legend Agassi is still reigning among the tops even though it's been said that he's thinking of settling down. Philippousis, Srichapan, Coria, Schuettler.. It just couldn't get any better.

For the meanwhile, WTA has been plagued with injury. Venus couldn't hold up for at least the QFs to set up a popular match-up. Hingis has retired. Kournikova, Dokic, Seles, Pierce, Capriati, Serena are nowhere. There is infact a lack of large names. There's a big void in women's tennis that is apparent for the casual viewers.




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Has men's tennis reclaimed the torch from the WTA?

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I don´t know about marketing and stuff....but right now the most compelling matches are on the men´s side. Roger vs Hewitt, Marat vs Andy....some serious stuff going there.

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the answer to the title of this thread is yes...it is way more interesting now.

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and just better quality, more consistent, well constructed tennis in general.

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hasnt mens tennis always won over womens??
well, in the uk it seems that way, probably because we have no top players. only tim.


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Mens tennis has always had more depth than womens tennis. There are so many outstanding young men with loads of talent like Roddic, Federer, Ferrero, Nalbandian, Hewitt, Safin Coria, Nadal. I mean these players are gonna be around for some time. Womens tennis is like the same old players getting to slam finals all the time. Great if u like that, and if its my player i do, but i also like some variety.

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Mens tennis has always had more depth than womens tennis. There are so many outstanding young men with loads of talent like Roddic, Federer, Ferrero, Nalbandian, Hewitt, Safin Coria, Nadal. I mean these players are gonna be around for some time. Womens tennis is like the same old players getting to slam finals all the time. Great if u like that, and if its my player i do, but i also like some variety.
I am sorry there is so contradiction in here. It is ok to have same old player like Agassi and young generations like Federer and Hewitt and Roddick to lift titles for years to come but it is criminal to see the same old Williams sisters and Henin-Hardenne to dominate tennis

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The belgian girls are fantastic players they just dont gave so much spunk about them as the spice girls, jen and the williams sisters. And Monica cos she's such a favorite.
The wta tor is lacking bigtime at the moment.

The atp is hott at the moment with AA and ARod (its less hot cos Moya and Blake are no longer in the tournie ) but you know hewiit - fed should be a cracker a 4th round match. on the womens side we'll be lucky if the final has any spice to it. However like i said no disrespect to Kim, or Juju at all they are fenomenal players.

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