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Red face Lisa Raymond: Williams Sisters Have Lost Their Luster

Updated: 10:28 AM EST

Raymond Says Belief Key to Beating Williams Sisters
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By OSSIAN SHINE, Reuters

MELBOURNE, Australia (Jan. 24) -- The Williams sisters have lost their intimidation factor and beating Venus was just a matter of belief, Lisa Raymond said after ousting the third seed at the Australian Open on Saturday.

Doubles specialist Raymond had lost all three previous matches the pair played, never winning more than a handful of games, but at Melbourne Park on Saturday she ousted the former world No. 1 6-4, 7-6 in the third round of the Grand Slam.

"I just stepped up to the plate and just believed I could win," the 30-year-old said, reflecting on a shocking victory.

"I think that was the bottom line. Just believing that I deserved to be on the court with her and believing that I was able to beat her," she said.

Venus, runner-up to sister Serena in the final here last year, had not played a tournament since losing the final of Wimbledon -- also to Serena -- last July. She had struggled with an abdominal injury for the second half of the year.

Serena is absent from the Australian Open with an injury of her own and Raymond believes that their long absences have dented their mystique.

"I think to a degree they've lost a little bit of their luster as far as (being) the Williams sisters," she said of the pair, who have won 10 of the last 20 Grand Slam tournaments.
"But at the same time you know they're gonna play well, you know they're gonna compete. You now they're hungrier, probably hungrier than ever now that they have been off the tour for so long and they want to come back and establish themselves."

Raymond said the victory ranked as one of her best.

"It is definitely up there, I couldn't ask much more of myself," the world No. 30 said.

"To finally play that way and to get a win feels good. There's a lot of difference between taking a top player to three sets and getting a win," she said.

Raymond had a supporter who knows a thing or two about winning matches -- her doubles partner Martina Navratilova, who won 167 singles titles and 173 doubles crowns.
"She sent me a text message this morning and said 'Just be brave and believe in yourself,'" Raymond said.

"You know, I thought about that out there. Having that voice in the back of my head certainly didn't hurt," she said.

Raymond will play teenage wild card Tatiana Golovin of France in the fourth round.



01/24/04 00:24 ET

Copyright 2004 Reuters Limited.


Is she still bitter about the Olympics snub?

I mean give me a break! The woman was out for six months with a abdominal injury and all of a sudden she can't play anymore since Lisa beat her? This is probably be the only victory she gets off of Venus (and it wsn't a blowout) and if history is any indication, we know what will happen.
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She is right about 100% of the things she said. Why are you making a big deal about it *rolls eyes*
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What Lisa actually said:

Q. When someone's off the tour for such a long time, does that not eliminate the fear factor or mystique, but does it lessen it?

LISA RAYMOND: I think to a degree it does. I think to a degree they've certainly lost a little bit of their luster as far as, you know, the Williams sisters.

But at the same time, you have to come -- you know they're gonna play well. You know that they're gonna compete. You know they're hungry, probably hungrier than ever now that they have been off the tour for so long, and they want to come back and establish themselves.

So, you know, I think it works a little bit both ways.

Q. The fact that she's been away for six months doesn't make her a less intimidating presence there? You have to play your very best to beat her?

LISA RAYMOND: Definitely not. Again, I think she served something like 10 or 12 [14 in reality] aces today. You're still playing Venus Williams. You're still playing Serena Williams. Whether or not they're off the tour for a month or a year, again, they're gonna come to play. They're gonna compete and they're gonna want to win.
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Venus and Serena are different people. I doubt Serena will come back so rusty. I also think most players will still be intimidated by her.

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What does 'luster' mean ?

I always thought it was 'lustre' meaning desire / determination as in 'lacklustre' .

Here it seems like she means it like they've lost the invincible aura around them or have I got it wrong ? :retard:
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She is right about 100% of the things she said. Why are you making a big deal about it *rolls eyes*
This is the first time she has even beaten Venus and probably the last. What makes her such an expert on how to beat the Williams sisters. Kim also had the belief in late 2002. She hasn't beaten them since.
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The Williamses dont go by aura of other players, they go out there determined to give it all theyve got. Thats how they've gotten this far and thats how they will continue to play.
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"I think to a degree they've lost a little bit of their luster as far as (being) the Williams sisters," she said of the pair, who have won 10 of the last 20 Grand Slam tournaments.
"But at the same time you know they're gonna play well, you know they're gonna compete. You now they're hungrier, probably hungrier than ever now that they have been off the tour for so long and they want to come back and establish themselves."
What's the problem with saying that? (other than the misspelling of lustre). She even complimented them right after. And the fact that they've lost their lustre is self evident in the fact that Lisa believed in her chances more yesterday than she'd in the past (you can't scare people as much when you're coming back from an extended break).

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"lustre" means something like "shine".

Lisa was saying they no longer kind of shine with the same aura of invincibility.

"lacklustre" means "dull" or "lacking in sparkle"

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What's the problem with saying that? (other than the misspelling of lustre). She even complimented them right after. And the fact that they've lost their lustre is self evident in the fact that Lisa believed in her chances more yesterday than she'd in the past (you can't scare people as much when you're coming back from an extended break).
It is apparently that she was heavily coached too.

I wonder what she will say if Venus wins some Tier I's and a Grand Slam this year, including beating her to get the title.
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Thank you Leopard .
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What does 'luster' mean ?

I always thought it was 'lustre' meaning desire / determination as in 'lacklustre' .

Here it seems like she means it like they've lost the invincible aura around them or have I got it wrong ? :retard:
lus·ter [ lústər ]
noun (plural lus·ters)
1. soft sheen: a soft sheen of reflected light, especially from metal that has been polished gently

2. shininess: a bright and shiny condition or tone

3. splendor: the glory and magnificence of a great achievement

4. polish: polish or wax used to give something a shiny finish
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A "luster" is something a bit different.

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lack·lus·ter [ lák lůstər ]
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lacking excitement: lacking energy, excitement, enthusiasm, or passion
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