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Now I understand why Serena didn't want to play.

After a long layoff, if you're an elite player and don't feel 110%, don't show up cold-turkey at a Slam. Venus's loss in the third round shows that an exhibition game is just not enough to get match tough and be ready to face players who've been battling it day in day out. Though Lisa is #25, she's an elite doubles-player who can rise to the occasion at any time; and today was one. Brave showing on the part of Venus, and I hope her confidence do not suffer from this loss.

Congrats Lisa! Let me say that was totally unexpected.
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Typical !
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Somehow, I'd rather see Venus lose to Raymond than to Clijsters, Mauresmo or Henin ... it is of a sweeter taste ...

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Somehow, I'd rather see Venus lose to Raymond than to Clijsters, Mauresmo or Henin ... it is of a sweeter taste ...

like you had a choice .....Lisa saved Venus the embarrassment of losing 6-0 6-1 to the Belgians
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I kinda feel for Vee. If either of the sisters was meant to lose here, it shoulda been the cocky Serena.
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Venus will be just fine after this loss. If the Williams Sisters have shown anything is that they rebound very quickly. Look what happened after the French Open this year.
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But I thought that the sisters did not need to play a lot of matches to win?? I thought they always warmed up in rounds 1-4.
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After a long layoff, if you're an elite player and don't feel 110%, don't show up cold-turkey at a Slam. Venus's loss in the third round shows that an exhibition game is just not enough to get match tough and be ready to face players who've been battling it day in day out. Though Lisa is #25, she's an elite doubles-player who can rise to the occasion at any time; and today was one. Brave showing on the part of Venus, and I hope her confidence do not suffer from this loss.

Congrats Lisa! Let me say that was totally unexpected.
Get back on your feet, Vee. You MUST take home that well-known diamond trophy in February.
I don't think that her confidence will suffer. If her confidence was going to suffer a blow I think that it would have been when she lost in the first round at RG a couple of years ago. Even Venus can't beat everybody all the time as we all know. But I think that like Schett and Zvonereva this loss will be taken care of in short order. But you're right, Venus needs match play to work it when she meets good players. Raymond is normally not that good but apparently she played the match of her life today. Kudos to Lisa.
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like you had a choice .....Lisa saved Venus the embarrassment of losing 6-0 6-1 to the Belgians
Yeah freaking right. No matter how bad Venus played or plays the Belgians would never beat her her 0 and 1.
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like you had a choice .....Lisa saved Venus the embarrassment of losing 6-0 6-1 to the Belgians
You mean like when Henin lost to Venus in straight last year at the AO or when Kim couldn't even beat a very injured Venus at Wimbledon?

We'll see what happens when it happens Diya ...

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Yeah freaking right. No matter how bad Venus played or plays the Belgians would never beat her her 0 and 1.
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From what I saw, it is not about just long layoff. I haven't seen Raymond match yet, but as I said it after Duchevina match, Venus is physically nowhere close to Venus Williams of old. By her own standards she is SLOW. Was it her injuries that affected her, but her legs are not as quick, her reactions are slow, her reflexes are slow. Her offensive abilities were not affected as much, but her defensive play looked very subpar. I'll say more after seeing Lisa match.

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From what I saw, it is not about just long layoff. I haven't seen Raymond match yet, but as I said it after Duchevina match, Venus is physically nowhere close to Venus Williams of old. By her own standards she is SLOW. Was it her injuries that affected her, but her legs are not as quick, her reactions are slow, her reflexes are slow. Her offensive abilities were not affected as much, but her defensive play looked very subpar. I'll say more after seeing Lisa match.
You may very well be right, ys. I'm taping the match so I'll have to see it later. I just don't think that Venus can be Championship ready after such a long layoff. Most of her other layoffs did not involve this kind of injury (let's not even mention the other stresses the family had). But if she means what she says about focus on tennis, she'll be back strong.
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I´m with ys...Venus is SLOW SLOW SLOW!! It seems that the ankle-strain really hampered her movement after the first-match. She couldn´t move to her left at all.

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post #15 of 25 (permalink) Old Jan 24th, 2004, 04:31 AM
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venus should have used gold coast or adidas as a warm-up rather than the AO, that's a bit too much.
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