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did every World No.1 (men and women) bring something new to the game?

I think that every no.1 in the world has brought something new and different to the game, transforming it, or at least having a huge impact on the game...
like I posted somewhere else, the only player that I have felt is bringing nothing new to the game (and will not transform/re-define anything) will be Andy Roddick.

1.JHH: Style, mental toughness, redefined the notion of size showing that a small player can do it all!
2.Kimmy: Speed and a kind heart can send you to the top of what you do! Prime example of a player that cares about others and her association (WTA)
3.Serena: Transformed the women's game into one that required mental toughness/passion/power/brains
4.Venus: Transformed the women's game into one that required mental toughness/passion/power/brains
5.Cappy: Showed that a has-been can become an is-now
6.Davenport: The cleanest hitter of the ball
7.Martina: the original trash talking teen-aged drama queen that helped make the WTA what it is today...and that is why we love her!

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I think that every no.1 in the world has brought something new and different to the game, transforming it, or at least having a huge impact on the game...
like I posted somewhere else, the only player that I have felt is bringing nothing new to the game (and will not transform/re-define anything) will be Andy Roddick.
You should post what you think the last couple #1's brought to the game.
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Yes I agree. Roddick is not really offering anything we have not seen before. And neither did Leyton Hewitt.

I'd like to think that all the women have something that is really different from the rest of the game or those who came before her and have occupied the number 1 spot. Lindsay's clean shots, Martina's finesse and court sense, Kim's speed and splits, etc.
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justine and Kim brought something new and different to the game? yes because defense and variety never existed in the wtaand i thought this place is a wta forum??? and the Roddick comment how about the lack of star power on the atp, and he does bring a huge serve, which is controled, and not wild like other monstrous servers

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justine and Kim brought something new and different to the game? yes because defense and variety never existed in the wtaand i thought this place is a wta forum??? and the Roddick comment how about the lack of star power on the atp, and he does bring a huge serve, which is controled, and not wild like other monstrous servers
I tend to agree. I don't exactly see what Kim and Justine brought that was new, but that's just me, someone else might see something.
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and i thought this place is a wta forum??? and the Roddick comment how about the lack of star power on the atp, and he does bring a huge serve, which is controled, and not wild like other monstrous servers
I know...I thought it look out of place too...I just could not resist trash dissing Roddick...and RE:Start power...Roddick is being forced into this "star Mode" It does not come naturally like it did for Serena,Venus,Anna and Martina
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I think that Justine has definitely brought a new look to the WTA. Justine has an all court game never really seen before incorporating finesse and power into her game. And that is why she's at number 1. You want to say she's not a finesse player, fine. But the many dimensions of her game, more so than ever before is definitely something that is now being forced into the WTA more so than before. Don't agree? Ok.
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As much as I like her, Capriati brought nothing new to the game upon reaching no. 1. She was a sister-clone. Juju managed to mix power and finesse, and Kim was the first to really be able to blend great defense w/ good offense. ASV2.0 if you will. Still, neither was as revolutionary as the others.

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1. Chris Evert--Two-Handed backhand, supreme self-control.

2. Martina Navratilova--Supreme serve, incredible aggression, great volleys.

3. Tracy Austin--Great power and control off both wings.

4. Steffi Graf--Most Powerful forehand ever seen.

5. Monica Seles--Killed the serve/volley game

6. Martina Hingis--Gave a breath of fresh air to what was becoming an increasingly power-bomber oriented sport. By far the best strategist ever seen on tour IMHO.

7. Lindsay Davenport--combined three big weapons (both strokes and the serve) for the first time.

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I know...I thought it look out of place too...I just could not resist trash dissing Roddick...and RE:Start power...Roddick is being forced into this "star Mode" It does not come naturally like it did for Serena,Venus,Anna and Martina
you can't fake star power. and he's been the same Andy regardless of his rank and achievements. either you have it or you don't, and he's got it

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Roddick did bring something new. No previous #1 truly lived off his serve. The star power argument is meaningless, because American TV can make anyone their star. If they decided to show every one of Ferrero's matches twice, and blab on about him for hours, Americans would think he's hot shit too.

Hewitt brought something too, because then there was the notion that men's tennis was becoming nothing but big serves, and Lleyton proved it wrong.

When Muster became #1, all Americans hated it, and said that clay season shouldn't even count.

I'll say Moya was a #1 player that had no impact... the 2 weeks, or whenever, he was #1.
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I think that Justine has definitely brought a new look to the WTA. Justine has an all court game never really seen before incorporating finesse and power into her game. And that is why she's at number 1. You want to say she's not a finesse player, fine. But the many dimensions of her game, more so than ever before is definitely something that is now being forced into the WTA more so than before. Don't agree? Ok.
Justine does have an all court game, but MOST of the time she doesn´t use it. once in a while she flashes some of it, but most of the time it´s just power-tennis...just as the rest of the tour, only difference: she has one-handed backhand. But she´s still a VERY good player.

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Venus and Serena: the ability to hit winners from anywhere and to make even a defensive position offensive.

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3.Serena: Transformed the women's game into one that required mental toughness/passion/power/brains
4.Venus: Transformed the women's game into one that required mental toughness/passion/power/brains
So Venus was the #1 first and added those elements.
But how can Serena add them again if Venus already did?

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i think each #1 raised the standard of performance required....

until Kim. i don't think Kim and Justine have raised it from where Serena left it
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