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New YEC format from 2014: 8 singles and 8 doubles teams

YAY they are finally changing it
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Re: New YEC format from 2014: 8 singles and 8 doubles teams

I hope that Doubles Race to YEC is changing too...

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Re: New YEC format from 2014: 8 singles and 8 doubles teams

what 8 teams?????
barely any doubles players out there to fill a decent wta draw

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Re: New YEC format from 2014: 8 singles and 8 doubles teams

Grandin/Ulhirova and their 31 tournaments played this season (best result: lost final in Strasbourg) would have made it this year

Wimbledon & Olympics winners would have not

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Re: New YEC format from 2014: 8 singles and 8 doubles teams

@spiceboy

simply since the itf and olympic commitee dont require 52 week doubles credentials.

i think the fact any singles player in the top 20 or so can team up with a decent server to rack up most mm titles proves the doubles tour as irrelevant for an 8 team format.
gone are the days that a player played doubles for ranking, when thier prestige are WC worthy.
italy, spain, czechs and usa are almost the last of the capable nations.

russians otoh capitalize easy draws against top20 sucky doubles players, without withdrawing too early.

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Re: New YEC format from 2014: 8 singles and 8 doubles teams

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Grandin/Ulhirova and their 31 tournaments played this season (best result: lost final in Strasbourg) would have made it this year

Wimbledon & Olympics winners would have not
Because those were basically the only two tournaments they played this year, weren´t they?
I know they lost one match to Kiri/petrova, too.

On the other hand, it´s ridiculous to allow someone like Grandin/Uhlirova to play while excluding GRAND SLAM winners (Kuznetsova/Zvonareva and Williams sisters).

I would say, ideally, the threshold should be at least 5 tournaments played together per season, then grand slams winners automatically (only pairs that played one slam together and then split, never played again would not be qualified.. or similar occasional partnerships).
So if Kuznetsova/Zvonareva play 5 tournaments together and win one slam, they are automatically qualified. If they play one slam and win it and never play a tournament again, then it would be weird for them to be there.

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Re: New YEC format from 2014: 8 singles and 8 doubles teams

I prefer to see Grandin/Uhlirova there than just 4 teams with just 3 doubles matches for a YEC...
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Re: New YEC format from 2014: 8 singles and 8 doubles teams

awesome!

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Re: New YEC format from 2014: 8 singles and 8 doubles teams

There´s also idea that some sort of juniors event should be added.
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Re: New YEC format from 2014: 8 singles and 8 doubles teams

Which came first - the chicken or the egg? Since the YEC went to 4 teams, if a team, like Vives and Sanchez for example, saw they couldn't make it, they stopped playing together. Now, with 8 teams, teams will be committed to each other and play longer since there is more a likelihood they qualify.

I love the 8 teams RR for doubles. It is a joke that a team gets 1500 for winning two matches.
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Re: New YEC format from 2014: 8 singles and 8 doubles teams

GS winners in doubles should be qualified automatically in this case

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Re: New YEC format from 2014: 8 singles and 8 doubles teams

That's great!
YEC with 4 teams was pretty much a joke.
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Re: New YEC format from 2014: 8 singles and 8 doubles teams

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There´s also idea that some sort of juniors event should be added.
With full doubles RR and junior also that means that play would start like at 9am

That or doubles and juniors would be played on an adjacent court

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Re: New YEC format from 2014: 8 singles and 8 doubles teams

or have it like ATP

Doubles then singles in 2 sessions a day

one day 1 group, then day off
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