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Navratilova Shriver vs Serenus : who would win ?

Tough one ? Nav Shriver is the most succesful team and were probably better at the net than Serenus. But then there Serenus' huge serve and power...
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Playing now, Serenus. Playing then, Pam/Martina.

Simply as that. Each was the best at the game their played.



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Re: Navratilova Shriver vs Serenus : who would win ?

Serenus. They have shown time and time again that they eat serve and volleying teams up for breakfast.


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Serenus would slaughter them with their power and swinging volleys at net

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Venus and Serena. At their best, they are the best team in history.

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Re: Navratilova Shriver vs Serenus : who would win ?

Navs and Shriver.

Venus and Serena have not faced anyone comparable in skill to that team.
It would be like Federer against Karlovic. Tough on grass definitely but there's enough skill and brains for the better team to prevail.

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Navs and Shriver.

Venus and Serena have not faced anyone comparable in skill to that team.
It would be like Federer against Karlovic. Tough on grass definitely but there's enough skill and brains for the better team to prevail.
Oh the same old: 'they only win because of power'-argument. right, right..

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Oh the same old: 'they only win because of power'-argument. right, right..
Um.. in doubles they do. And I love WS doubles but it is all shock and awe tennis. Neither of them are skilled volleyers and neither of them play doubles strategy.

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Navratilova and Shriver, they were a team based on power, and the Williams sister don't handle well ball bashers with good technique

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Um.. in doubles they do. And I love WS doubles but it is all shock and awe tennis. Neither of them are skilled volleyers and neither of them play doubles strategy.
And why precisely wouldn't this "shock and awe" work on any doubles team in history?

Shock and awe doubles isn't necessarily just power. It involves the accuracy, the length of the returns, the aggressive court positioning, the indomitable serving, the willingness to move forward to put away short balls, a rock steady smash. All these are things that peak-WS doubles bring to the court and there is no reason to think that Team Williams wouldn't stand a good chance of imposing their game.

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Re: Navratilova Shriver vs Serenus : who would win ?

God. These topics are so stupid.

Navratilova and Shriver played in the 80s and their serves were 40 MPH weaker than the girls today. Venus and Serena would crush returns. They're absolute beasts. Different technology, different rackets, different athletics. It's just different. Kirilenko and Makarova would also beat Navratilova and Shriver. You simply can't compare eras - especially not after 30 years! Maybe if it was ten years ago, we'd have a little more of an argument.

Long story short, stick anyone in the 80s and 90s against the legends of the 2010s (Henin, Venus, Serena, Sharapova, Clijsters) and they'd get crushed. Singles, doubles, mixed, etc.

The greats have said it. Agassi said you can't even compare people from the previous FIVE years. BJK also said something along the lines of different eras not being comparable.

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Now, if Venus and Serena played the exact same style of play as they do now, but were born in the 50s and 60s, and playing against peak Navratilova and Shriver, maybe it would be different. But that's way too complicated and full of ifs.

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A player ranked #100 in the world right now would still beat Chris Evert of 1970s. Like get real, people.

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A player ranked #100 in the world right now would still beat Chris Evert of 1970s. Like get real, people.
Take 1970's Chris Evert to today and give her 2 months to adapt, scoreline? 6-1 6-1 to her favour. Navratilova beat Catalina Castaño at Wimbledon in 2002 aged 46 by 6-0 6-1.

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