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No USA vs Germany doubles feed? :(

This sucks I wish another station had the coverage

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Re: No USA vs Germany doubles feed? :(

its on a court that isn't televised. A different station wouldn't do anything better in that regard.
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Re: No USA vs Germany doubles feed? :(

Just in general this switching back and forth. ESPN or Tennis channel at least give you an option to watch one of 5 matches

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Re: No USA vs Germany doubles feed? :(

They put the match on a another court so they can get it finished

The streamed match courts are behind because of rain
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Re: No USA vs Germany doubles feed? :(

They put the Williams sisters on a court that where there is no TV hookup or availability. It was mentioned on the NBC broadcast to justify to the USA audience why the Wiliams sisters were not on. Unreal.
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Just in general this switching back and forth. ESPN or Tennis channel at least give you an option to watch one of 5 matches
When do they do that? You talking Espn3 streams? Tennis channel is only one channel.

NBC is streaming all matches on the courts that are televised. Just so happens the williams sisters aren't on one.
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They put the Williams sisters on a court that where there is no TV hookup or availability. It was mentioned on the NBC broadcast to justify to the USA audience why the Wiliams sisters were not on. Unreal.
To be fair, they had no where else to put them. only five courts have TV feeds and you'd have to switch them pretty quickly cause matches started roughly at the same time. Logistics nightmare.

Not only that but Singles >doubles any day of the week.
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Re: No USA vs Germany doubles feed? :(

You would have to look long and hard to find another sport that kills its own golden goose the way tennis does.

First, yesterday they conceded the entire afternoon to the ATP, (losing millions of dollars in free TV advertising for their sport) by not having Venus on CC, where she should have been.

And then today, NBC must scramble again to fill airtime, because the Williams sisters are put on a court where TV crews can't even get their cameras.



One day there will be business college courses on how much money has been lost by the hierarchy of this sport, due to their loathing of the Williams Sisters.
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To be fair, they had no where else to put them. only five courts have TV feeds and you'd have to switch them pretty quickly cause matches started roughly at the same time. Logistics nightmare.

Not only that but Singles >doubles any day of the week.

I know that's the party line. But that's not an excuse.

If Golf were in this situation, they would find a way to get Tiger Woods on TV.

If the NBA were in this situation, they would find a way to get Kobe Byrant and Lebron James on TV.

If the ATP were in this situation, they would find a way to get Federer and Nadal on TV.


The only time, literally in all of sports that this issue comes up, is with Tennis and the Williams Sisters.

Think about it.

Nobody in sports has a more difficult time with their top stars than they do. Its gone beyond sheer coincidence.



We have had lots of rain delays before. This isn't anything that new. When was the last time Federer or Nadal played an afternoon match on a court where TV hookup literally was not even available, during a highly televised tournament?
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Re: No USA vs Germany doubles feed? :(

Part of it goes on the WTA but I'm not sure how much say they have in this tournament specifically. I don't think the ITF is thinking we need to have the williams sisters on a TV court for a second round doubles match.. That's just me.
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Re: No USA vs Germany doubles feed? :(

Court 12 has cameras during Wimbledon, I wonder why it has none during Olympics. Pi**ed off!

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Re: No USA vs Germany doubles feed? :(

Blame Tsonga Raonic

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Part of it goes on the WTA but I'm not sure how much say they have in this tournament specifically. I don't think the ITF is thinking we need to have the williams sisters on a TV court for a second round doubles match.. That's just me.

In full fairness, you absolutely could be right. I am not sure who has the final call on court placement. But I can tell you that it is possible for management to persuade the ITF into making this a priority. I believe if the WTA wanted to emphasize certain court assignments for the benefits of fans and TV partners, this would not have happened.



Think about.

The number one business partner for the entire Olympics want the WIlliams sisters as often as possible (NBC Sports). They are the top draw and # 1 TV ratings generator for your spot. And this is the biggest platform the sport is going to have for the next 4 years to showcase our sport to the world.

And this is what happens?




The WTA can hide behind the ITF, who can hide behind this group, etc. etc. They are just passing the buck.

To put this in proper context, with the same rain delays and same tournament, the ATP has managed to get almost all of Roger Federer's events on TV. In fact yesterday, USA TV got the Roger Federer doubles match IN ITS ENTIRETY! In fact in the last 4 days as an American sports consumer, I've gotten more Joe Wilfred Tsongas on TV than anything else! Yes that's right. The ATP has nearly gotten as much commercial air time for Joe Wiflred Tsongas, as the WTA has for the much more accomplished Wililams Sisters. Watching the WTA run ths sport it has gotten to be downright comical.

With NBC Sports as your #1 business partner, how on earth, under any circumstances could the Williams sisters end up on a court .... WHERE TV COVERAGE WAS NOT POSSIBLE!
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Blame Tsonga Raonic
I'll tell you what was interesting.

Did you guys notice that Tsongas/Raonic took presidence over the Sharpaova match on center court on USA TV?



I'll admit I was shocked. I thought they would go to Sharapova. But they didn't. And you could tell by the broadcast that there was legit indecision on behalf of NBC with regards to which way to go. I guess the overwhelming data showing that Sharapova doesn't add any additional TV viewers to her matches, led NBC to stay away. I don't know.


Yesterday, NBC completely avoided the Wozniacki match on center court. And today with Sharapova playing on center court, they opted for Tsongas. This really shows you the state of the WTA, and its not good. It also shows you the true value of the Williams sisters. Venus and Serena are the only two players on the WTA tour that can keep WTA olympic tennis on NBC.


Tsongas over Sharapova! Who would have thought that.
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Re: No USA vs Germany doubles feed? :(

The men showed that you can still have a great, if long, match that is best 2 out of 3. So...let's make it happen ITF.

Anyway, they needed to get the doubles in today, just to give Vee some rest , so they moved it to a nontelevised court. Now why so many nontelevised courts for the Olympics, I don't understand, seemed like a mistake at the start.

I think NBC wanted to let people wrapped up in Tsonga-Raonic see the end. Little did they know that the last set would be three hours long.
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