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So tired.of the liberal student-athlete whine.

How many 18-22 yr olds are making $20-$60k per yeat? Much less getting free training table meals, medical and preferrential student registration and tutoring?

99.5% are not even pro prospects and are getting paid to play a game. In many cases they are subs too.

Ask the other 99.5% of students working at Starbucks what they think of a student-athlete whine when those athletes get all these perks? what % of non-athletes spend more time working than in class? ALMOST ALL

Shut up or just eliminate all scholatships and see what the poor abused basketball and football players do after hs? It would not be making $15-60k plus benefits.

And again most athletes wash out... only 1/3 of the roster in hoops and football even play regularly but they all are on ride.
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So tired.of the liberal student-athlete whine.

How many 18-22 yr olds are making $20-$60k per yeat? Much less getting free training table meals, medical and preferrential student registration and tutoring?

99.5% are not even pro prospects and are getting paid to play a game. In many cases they are subs too.

Ask the other 99.5% of students working at Starbucks what they think of a student-athlete whine when those athletes get all these perks? what % of non-athletes spend more time working than in class? ALMOST ALL

Shut up or just eliminate all scholatships and see what the poor abused basketball and football players do after hs? It would not be making $15-60k plus benefits.

And again most athletes wash out... only 1/3 of the roster in hoops and football even play regularly but they all are on ride.
I agree!
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Well stated.
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An recent article entitled, Don't Hate the Player: Are College Athletes Working for a Degree or Working for a Cartel? is about the big money sports, but still is thought provoking.

http://www.sfweekly.com/2014-07-16/n...march-madness/
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About 98.6% of the discussions of "student-athletes" in the popular media are consumed by/with the revenue sports and relate to non-revenue sports like tennis in only one way: whatever rules, experiments, or stipulations put in place to address the problems of the revenue sports will have an undeniable impact on the other 95% per cent of the college athlete population, whether that is intended or otherwise.

The vast, vast majority of student athletes in the U.S. have absolutely no professional-sports ambitions and pursue their sport for reasons other than becoming a professional athlete. The S.F. article never mentions sports or athletes other than those in football and basketball, and in those sports there are demonstrated concerns that need to be addressed. But the same concerns hardly apply at all to sports like tennis--except that changes made to address the problems inherent in revenue sports will also impact how/whether non-revenue sports continue to function.
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About 98.6% of the discussions of "student-athletes" in the popular media are consumed by/with the revenue sports and relate to non-revenue sports like tennis in only one way: whatever rules, experiments, or stipulations put in place to address the problems of the revenue sports will have an undeniable impact on the other 95% per cent of the college athlete population, whether that is intended or otherwise.

The vast, vast majority of student athletes in the U.S. have absolutely no professional-sports ambitions and pursue their sport for reasons other than becoming a professional athlete. The S.F. article never mentions sports or athletes other than those in football and basketball, and in those sports there are demonstrated concerns that need to be addressed. But the same concerns hardly apply at all to sports like tennis--except that changes made to address the problems inherent in revenue sports will also impact how/whether non-revenue sports continue to function.
Yes, but, ... in tennis ... although its not driven by television money, prestige and alumni financial support does matter. Players have difficulty putting in the practice hours, and also completing their student courses.

One of the ideas that was discussed in the article, was extending the scholarship to more years, while keeping the eligibility to play the same. I haven't thought it all the way through, but a interesting possibility.
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One of the ideas that was discussed in the article, was extending the scholarship to more years, while keeping the eligibility to play the same. I haven't thought it all the way through, but a interesting possibility.
Many schools do this (though I don't know about for the revenue sports), allowing a scholarship for a fifth year in exchange for "some work" for the institution. My daughter's and most of her friends' D1 schools allow it--but don't really advertise it.
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Well I heard the NCAA scholarship is over 5 years, while most finish in 4-4.5. Working though may be up to the institution

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Many schools do this (though I don't know about for the revenue sports), allowing a scholarship for a fifth year in exchange for "some work" for the institution. My daughter's and most of her friends' D1 schools allow it--but don't really advertise it.
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My understanding is the fifth year scholarship can not be guaranteed without it being a payment to the athlete violating NCAA rules just as as promising sports cars, or free long distance phone calls. maybe that is why it is "not really advertised" But I think its common enough practice among the well funded schools to award a different scholarship or work program for the athlete in the 5 year. But it can't be guaranteed, or come out of the same part of the athletic budget.
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N.C.A.A. Must Allow Colleges to Pay Athletes, Judge Rules

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/09/sp...case.html?_r=0
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