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Analysis of Top Teams

1. Georgia Tech
- = 3 Starters Lost: No. 2 Silverio, No. 3 Craddock, No. 6 Rudmann
+= 2 Recruits Added: Johansson and Hickey, plus Flower who wasn't even in the line-up for the NCAA team tournament

Should be able to maintain top 3 ranking.

2. Stanford
- = 2 Starters Lost: Hard to replace No. 1 Logar, No. 2 Yelsey
+ = 3 Recruits Added: Barte, McVeigh, and Yen

Definitely more vulnerable then they were last year. Still a strong team though the bottom of the line-up (No. 5 and 6) much weaker than years past and doubles is a huge question mark in my opinion. With stronger UCLA and USC teams, Stanford will be lucky to be top 3, maybe even top 5. They're probably a No. 4-6 team.

3. UCLA
- = Entire team intact, no losses
+ = 1 Recruit Added: Remynse, top recruit, added to the mix

UCLA is a top 3 team, no doubt. Should win Pac-10's this year possibly undefeated or losses only to USC.

4. Georgia
- = 2 Starters Lost: No. 1 Frazier and No. 5 Ivanov
+ = 2 Recruits Added: Ellis and two Canadians (O'Neil, Lalewicz)

Georgia was ranked way too high at the end of the year. Last year they were more like a No. 6-7 team. Georgia will have to do a shuffle in doubles and it remains to be seen if Dancivec and Y. Hyndman can raise their game to the No. 1 and No. 2 singles spots. Most likely are a No. 7-8 team

5. California
- = 2 Starters Lost: No. 2 Fodor was expected but No. 3 Henkel is not on the team. Huge blow for Cal.
+ = 3 Recruits Added: Cossou, Dillon, and Englert

Cal will be lucky to hang onto a No. 5 ranking. Even though I'm a huge fan, I can't even see the team hanging onto a top 10 ranking. Cossou and Dillon are no way in the same league as Fodor and Henkel. Doubles will be weak as usual, bottom line-up will be susceptible to its stronger Pac-1 counterparts.

6. Florida
- = Entire team intact, no losses
+ = 1 Recruit Added: Julia Cohen

Update: Boonstra is forced to sit and will join the team for the 2008-2009 season as a sophomore. Julia Cohen will take her place, not bad for a substitute. Florida always gets the top international talent so Boonstra should be pretty good. Florida should be able to regain their SEC title and move into the top 4-6.

7. Notre Dame
- = 2 Starters Lost: Thompson twins, the No. 1 and No. 2 in singles and No. 1 doubles team
+ = 1 Recruit Added: Rafael

Notre Dame will be knocked down a peg or two or three from last year. All of the players will have to step up their games in both singles and doubles. Should be ranked in the No. 7 to No. 10 range. Definitely not as strong as last year.

No. 8 Northwestern
- = 1 Starter Lost: No. 3 Prousis
+ = 1 Recruit Added: Mosolova

Mosolva has already proved she has game, taking out Babos in the semis of the Cal Invitational. Rose and Mosolva should be a good No. 1 and No. 2 singles combo. The rest of their line-up while good compared to most schools, doesn't have what it takes to compete with the very top teams. Should be ranked at the No. 10 spot, plus or minus.

No. 9 Miami
- = 1 Starter Lost: No. 1 Cohen
+ = 2 Recruits Added: Kissell, Elchkorn

Obviously a huge hole will be left by Cohen no matter what you have to say about her tennis. Miami like Florida gets top international talent, but with the absence of Cohen this will set the program back. They should hang around No. 10-12.

No. 10 USC
- = 3 Starters Lost: Ancastasiu, Matias, DeVera
+ = 4 Starters Added: Sanchez, Andrews, Kintsler, Entekhabi

Normally you would think that losing 3 players would be devastating to a team, luckily for USC its all at the bottom of the line-up and they have what appears to be on paper an outstanding freshman class. That combined a very solid No. 1 to No. 3 led by two-time NCAA runner-up Nelson and you should easily have a top 5 team.

Top 16 Predictions
1. Georgia Tech
2. UCLA
3. USC
4. Florida
5. Stanford
6. Duke
7. Georgia
8. Notre Dame
9. Northwestern
10. Baylor
11. Fresno State
12. Cal
13. William and Mary
14. North Carolina
15. Clemson
16. Miami

Georgia, Notre Dame, Northwestern are pretty close together in my opinion. There are a lot of teams that could squeeze into the top 6 to 10. Duke could make a spalsh with a strong freshman class but for some reaon they always seem to under perform. The College of William and Mary is a strong possibility with their entire team still intact. Plus there is Clemson, North Carolina, and Baylor. Fresno State should not be overlooked they are a big dark horse led by Gloria, Petuhkova, Kurcekova.

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Re: Analysis of Top Teams

One thing I find annoying about the rankings is that the ACC and SEC traditionally do much better in the rankings than their Pac-10 counterparts given how the ranking system works. This of course ultimately means the Pac-10 is underranked. One big example is Cal this past year who came into the team tournament ranked No. 11. And ASU which is much better than most schools is subjected to a lower ranking because they face USC, UCLA, Stanford and scheduling, they have a much more limited opportunity to rack up wins over higher ranked teams.

In the ACC and SEC the teams are ranked much closer together and they tend to trade wins more often which allows them to be ranked higher than the Pac-10 where there is a bigger disparity.

(Remember ranking depends on the current ranking of the teams you beat; if you beat the No. 1 team early in the year but they are now ranked No. 50 it counts as a No. 50 win)
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Wow -- I'm impressed by your knowledge of the college game. I only really follow Stanford, since they are located close to where I live.

I think I'll be happy if Stanford finishes w/in the top 5. Their strength will be their depth. Incoming freshman Yen crushed Hodzic at the Bank of the West qualifying this summer.

Of course, it wasn't good news when all three Stanford players lost in the first round of the Riviera/ITA All-American Championships last week.

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Tennisace, I completely agree with your qualms about the collegiate ranking system, the entire reason for Georgia's entirely inflated ranking IMO. At the NCAAs everyone was so shocked at UCLA's "cinderella" run to the final, when, in reality, they had been practically on par with Stanford and USC for the entire season. Georgia faced some competition on the East Coast in Miami, North Carolina, and GT, but nothing like their West Coast counterparts, who were playing top 10 caliber teams on an almost weekly basis.

For this coming year, I would really love to see USC do something big. I absolutely love Lindsey Nelson, and nothing would make me happier than seeing her put it all together and take the NCAA title. I think that Duke will be a real dark horse this year. Sure, they have consistently disappointed in the past, but Reka and Ellah have already shown that they are ready to compete at a high level, and, combined with their already decent line up, they could make some noise.
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Wow -- I'm impressed by your knowledge of the college game. I only really follow Stanford, since they are located close to where I live.

I think I'll be happy if Stanford finishes w/in the top 5. Their strength will be their depth. Incoming freshman Yen crushed Hodzic at the Bank of the West qualifying this summer.

Of course, it wasn't good news when all three Stanford players lost in the first round of the Riviera/ITA All-American Championships last week.
I didn't get into college tennis until 2002, but I follow it pretty closely particularly the Pac-10 and the College of William and Mary (I had friend who was on a tennis scholarship there; she played No. 2-3 singles). I'm actually from the Bay Area (went to Cal and lived very close to Stanford). College tennis is interesting given the fact that as opposed to the professional tour where its all about the individual, in NCAA team tennis its more of a numbers game. How can you get four wins?

Its interesting to see the shift from a few years ago where there was only a handful of good teams and now its much more competitive. Now to be a top 5 team you really need four solid girls as opposed to a couple years back where you could get away with two to three good girls. Georgia Tech has recently employed this strategy as well as Notre Dame. In my opinion this is why Stanford has been so successful in the past, knowing that only 8 girls can be on scholarship they go after two "blue chips" players per year. This prevents a rebuilding year and a lull in talent.

One reason Stanford is a little weaker than normal is last year in addition to Lindsay Burdette they were going to gain Vania King. But as well all know she ultimately turned them down to go pro.

I've totally gone off track but Hodzic unfortunately has been plagued with injuries all throughout her college career. I am curious to see how McVeigh and Yen will do in NCAA tennis. In my opinion the top teams will be able to beat Stanford because of Deason (who will play No. 3 to No. 5, probably No. 4), the No. 6 player (Hodzic, Yen, or McVeigh), and should be able to win the doubles point. Thus USC, Georgia Tech, etc. will just need one more win to sneak a 4-3 match win.
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Tennisace, I completely agree with your qualms about the collegiate ranking system, the entire reason for Georgia's entirely inflated ranking IMO. At the NCAAs everyone was so shocked at UCLA's "cinderella" run to the final, when, in reality, they had been practically on par with Stanford and USC for the entire season. Georgia faced some competition on the East Coast in Miami, North Carolina, and GT, but nothing like their West Coast counterparts, who were playing top 10 caliber teams on an almost weekly basis.

For this coming year, I would really love to see USC do something big. I absolutely love Lindsey Nelson, and nothing would make me happier than seeing her put it all together and take the NCAA title. I think that Duke will be a real dark horse this year. Sure, they have consistently disappointed in the past, but Reka and Ellah have already shown that they are ready to compete at a high level, and, combined with their already decent line up, they could make some noise.
Duke hasn't been a top team since 2005. The only problem with Duke this year is that they are a pretty young team with only 3 players who are a junior or senior. They can really improve their chances next year if they get a "blue chip." The only problem is that they have only one scholarship spot left if no one else leaves. Granted they should do very well and should have a much better season than last year which was pretty abysmal.

A team to watch out for the future is Virginia. As for USC, this is their best chance in a long while to win the NCAA team title. I believe last time USC was ranked No. 1 was in 2002. With Nelson graduating this year, it'll be harder to win in the subsequent years (they already have Nelson's replacment, Ramos). The one thing USC has to worry about is if the freshman can make the transition from juniors to college. Let's say they didn't start very well at the All-American tournament Kintsler, Sanchez, and Andrews went 0 for 3.
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Oh and Stanford should bounce back and dominate at the ITA Northwest Regionals. There won't be much competition for them save for Gloria, Kurcekova, Pethukova (all from Fresno State) and perhaps Venise Chan (a former Hong Kong junior) from Washington.
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Hodzic unfortunately has been plagued with injuries all throughout her college career.
Many years ago I saw Hodzic win the Mt. View Open--not knowing at the time she was still in High School. I remember thinking that there would be no stopping this girl...she's on the fast track all the way to the top.


So since she's a local girl, I'd like her to do well, but so far I've been disappointed by her performances. Yes, she has had injuries, but sometimes when I've seen her play, she's not in the right frame of mind. If some line calls go against her, I've then seen her spray balls all over the place, when she should be wiping out her opponent.

If she had some of Logars will to win - the never say die attitude - she'd be awesome! Maybe it is just confidence? I'm not expert...just my two cents.

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Many years ago I saw Hodzic win the Mt. View Open--not knowing at the time she was still in High School. I remember thinking that there would be no stopping this girl...she's on the fast track all the way to the top.


So since she's a local girl, I'd like her to do well, but so far I've been disappointed by her performances. Yes, she has had injuries, but sometimes when I've seen her play, she's not in the right frame of mind. If some line calls go against her, I've then seen her spray balls all over the place, when she should be wiping out her opponent.

If she had some of Logars will to win - the never say die attitude - she'd be awesome! Maybe it is just confidence? I'm not expert...just my two cents.
The player I was talking about eariler was Lena Sherbakov, who beat Hodzic in the 2000 CCS Girl's Singles Final and is also from the area. I never got to see Hodzic play in person, given she was always the No. 7/8 player when I was in college. Hodzic has shown flashes of brillance she beat Babos last year in a tournament but then lost to counter puncher Cristina Visico aslo from Cal. I believe the problem with Hodzic is she doesn't know how to control power. She has a hard time playing counter punchers (if you look at her record, she loses to either bigger hitters or counter punchers). I think in part to her injuries, Hodzic has never been able to develop her game in college. Some players really transform and up their level in play in college while others just stay at the same level. One Stanford player that comes to mind was Lauren Barnikow. She was a highly touted junior but really never excelled in the NCAA level.

Funny story about Logar. First of all Logar eventually got into much better shape but her freshman year she was Bartoli-esque and then some. I remember I was sitting near Sasha Podkolzina who was telling her Cal teammate who was playing Logar to move her around because she's a big fat blob or something like that. Haha.

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Although Coach Forood isn't worried yet about Stanford's abysmal All American outting. Her actions say otherwise. Stanford hasn't done this badly at All American in a long time and this weekend she's send Nguyen, Burdette, and McVeigh to the St. Mary's Classic which is a really really weak tournament. I believe Mesterova from LMU has won it the past two years, and her highest ranking ever has been No. 40. In the past, Forood has sent basically only the freshman and the non-scholarship players. I mean even Cal doesn't send its top players, rather its No. 6-9 players.

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Looks like Nguyen pulled out and Yen is in instead.

The draws are out for the tournament here, http://www.tennisinformation.com/tou.../9/default.asp
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Funny story about Logar. First of all Logar eventually got into much better shape but her freshman year she was Bartoli-esque and then some. I remember I was sitting near Sasha Podkolzina who was telling her Cal teammate who was playing Logar to move her around because she's a big fat blob or something like that. Haha.
Yeah, Logar was never in the best of shape freshmen-junior years. Lucky for her, she didn't have to be in tip top shape playing at No. 3 or lower (behind Liu and Barnes).

First time I saw her last year as No. 1, I barely recognized her! She was in great shape. Good to see she took it seriously enough to get in shape to be able to compete at the top slot.

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Although Coach Forood isn't worried yet about Stanford's abysmal All American outting. Her actions say otherwise. Stanford hasn't done this badly at All American in a long time and this weekend she's send Nguyen, Burdette, and McVeigh to the St. Mary's Classic which is a really really weak tournament. I believe Mesterova from LMU has won it the past two years, and her highest ranking ever has been No. 40. In the past, Forood has sent basically only the freshman and the non-scholarship players. I mean even Cal doesn't send its top players, rather its No. 6-9 players.
We're a young team, although I am no longer part of the crew... but the competition this year is definitely more interesting!
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I think I'll be happy if Stanford finishes w/in the top 5. Their strength will be their depth. Incoming freshman Yen crushed Hodzic at the Bank of the West qualifying this summer.
Speaking of crushed, Bojana Bobusic from Cal who is their No. 8-9 player beat Yen 6-0, 6-1. It makes me wonder if Yen was really good when she beat Hodzic or if Hodzic self-imploded/was totally rusty.
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